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1. dragon+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-01-13 16:59:44
> How or why Scott Adams went completely of the rails is perhaps something we'll sadly never understand. Was this opinions he'd always had, but suppressed,

They weren't surpressed; he was very open about them from very early on in his career as a comic artist; they were central to his “origin story” and were woven directly into the comics. Its just, for a while, other aspects of his still-recent experience in corporate America gave him other relatable things to say that were mixed in with them, which made it easier to overlook them.

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2. cptski+a1[view] [source] 2026-01-13 17:02:59
>>dragon+(OP)
Has anyone take the time to prove that out? I was a fan of the comic for years and don't recall there being a lot of casual racism strewn in.
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3. the_af+N2[view] [source] 2026-01-13 17:07:24
>>dragon+(OP)
Were there early signs? I don't know of them, but to be honest, I mostly "knew" him through Dilbert. When he turned out to be a bigot it was a disappointing surprise to me.
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4. neaden+w3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:10:50
>>the_af+N2
I had one of his books from ages ago and it had a long bit on the end about affirmations and his weird views on quantum physics and the ability of human mind to manipulate them.
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5. Liquid+Y3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:12:03
>>the_af+N2
I don't recall any of his rightwing stuff, but I remember one of his 90s books had some stuff at the end about how quantum physics meant you could control reality by envisioning what you want and then you'd enter the universe with it. I was a teen and remember being utterly baffled.
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6. Beetle+64[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:12:20
>>the_af+N2
He was always a contrarian. Sometime around 2007-2008, he had a humorous blog post that (IMO rightfully) questioned the US's narrative on Iran and nuclear weapons. He had to backpedal very quickly after it blew up.
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7. jimmyd+p5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:16:20
>>cptski+a1
Even in early (20 yrs before Trump stuff) interviews, Adams said that one of the reasons he tried various businesses out (like the comic) was that his coprorate manager told him that the manager was being strongly discouraged from promoting white men. That's likely what folks are referencing with regard to his "origin story."
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8. dragon+z5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:16:46
>>the_af+N2
> Were there early signs?

I remember reading (I think in newspaper interview) in the late 1990s his own description of how comics became his full-time focus and his deep resentment of how difficult it had been to advance in management in corporate America because he was a White man in the 1980s (!?!) was pretty central to it.

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9. Anothe+K5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:17:14
>>cptski+a1
I specifically do remember comics poking fun at diversity initiatives. A quick search of "Dilbert comic about diversity" brings up some examples.

At the time i read those i probably thought they were on point. I've changed my views over the years. You can't keep them or you end up like Adams. That's probably the key to understanding him. He grew up in an era where black students were not allowed to attend white schools. The world changed. He didn't.

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10. mikeyo+U6[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:21:19
>>cptski+a1
Later on there was a ton of weird anti-feminist content in the comics.. he also had his blog where he wrote way too much so ended up in holocaust-denial and “evolution is fake” territory. Another person talented in one field and pretty unremarkable otherwise who needed to air his terrible opinions about everything else.
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11. Aloha+1a[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:30:26
>>Anothe+K5
At the time, a lot of them were little more than lipstick on a pig.

It took a long time to actually get to diversity that was beyond token "person of group" inclusivity.

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12. 12_thr+Ha[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:32:37
>>dragon+z5
Oh, oof. But also ... huh. Not that I'm steeped in dilbert lore, but wasn't the the main villain was a stupid balding white manager guy? Dunno if he's an unreliable narrator or was just smart enough to keep the white supremacy out the comics at first.
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13. dragon+9b[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:34:47
>>jimmyd+p5
He definitely blamed both the end of his career in banking and at PacBell on alleged discrimination against promoting White men in/into management (and I think he claims responsible people at both told him explicitly that that was the reason he was being passed over).

Somewhat later (but still quite a while before what people describe as him “turning”), he would also claim his Dilbert show on UPN was cancelled because he was White, making it the third job he lost for that reason. (More likely, it was cancelled because its audience was both small and White and UPN was, looking at where it had successes and wanting a coherent demographic story to sell to advertisers and in an era where synergies between the appeals of shows on the same network was important to driving ratings, working to rearrange its offerings to focus on targeting Black audiences.)

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14. dragon+qd[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:41:43
>>12_thr+Ha
> Not that I'm steeped in dilbert lore, but wasn't the the main villain was a stupid balding white manager guy?

I'd bet dollars to donuts that (if there is truth at all to him being told what he claims) the superiors making the promotion decisions so that told him he was being passed over because he was a White men were also White men. If he had to justify it, he might say that PHB also became a manager before the wave of political correctness.

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15. elzbar+9f[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 17:47:17
>>dragon+z5
There was nothing of the modern taboo on discussing this during the 80s and 90s. White man were more or less free to complain, not that anyone would listen, but complaining was still acceptable.
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16. LgWood+ok[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 18:05:48
>>the_af+N2
The misogyny has always been there.

The 6/11/1994 comic about sensitivity training comes to mind. "I can't find my keys" and "my blouse falls to the floor."

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17. diydsp+Qn[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 18:18:04
>>neaden+w3
I read his blog every now and then. He was cheering and celebrating the technical aspects of Trump's manipulative language... with no regard for its impact.
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18. seattl+rp[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 18:23:26
>>Liquid+Y3
That's basically the premise of the book "The Secret", which ironically destroyed the lives of a few friends of mine for a few years before they snapped out of it.
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19. tanepi+iu[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 18:42:07
>>neaden+w3
Well... Scott Adams was on Art Bell Coast to Coast AM a few times, so that tracks.
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20. maxbon+UC[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 19:11:17
>>dragon+z5
To add, he also said elsewhere that he didn't like his job and was phoning it in and focusing increasingly on his art. He thought he was passed over because of his gender for a promotion... When he was openly phoning it in and writing comics about how his work culture sucked. Why would you promote someone with their foot out the door and who was badly misaligned with the organization? One or the other maybe (someone who doesn't like the work culture might be a good pick to improve it) but both? Why would you even be upset about it when your art is blowing up and going full time on it is clearly the right move?

Similarly he felt his TV show was cancelled after two seasons because it wasn't PC, but his show wasn't getting good viewership and had a terrible time slot. That's a pretty typical trajectory for a TV show, it's like complaining your startup failed.

He wrote a lot about explicitly magical thinking. Sort of along the lines of The Secret; that he could achieve things where the odds were against him through sheer force of will and wishing. That's not necessarily a problem but it does set you up for denial when things don't always go your way. And the denial is dangerous.

The later chapters of his life were marked by tragedy. His stepson died of overdose. His marriage collapsed. He lost the ability to speak and had to fight like hell to get a proper diagnosis and treatment (he later recovered). He went through COVID like the rest of us. Unfortunately these events would seem to have hardened and radicalized him.

I think we can understand and empathize with that without condoning it. I hope he found his peace in the end.

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21. Findec+EM[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 19:49:32
>>LgWood+ok
The lines were spoken by a man who imagined that he was a woman. Therefore, I think the comic strip was intended rather about how men can have a skewed perception of women.
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22. DaSHac+RN[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 19:54:15
>>12_thr+Ha
> Dunno if he's an unreliable narrator or was just smart enough to keep the white supremacy out the comics at first.

Or I don't know, maybe everyone hates corpo suit types no matter the race?

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23. DaSHac+KO[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 19:57:35
>>Aloha+1a
> It took a long time to actually get to diversity that was beyond token "person of group" inclusivity.

Are we really beyond that now?

Many of the initiatives I've experienced are the same thing today, which is why I'm not a big fan.

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24. anonym+oQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 20:03:16
>>LgWood+ok
Maybe a different date? https://dilbert-viewer.herokuapp.com/1994-11-06 https://dilbert-viewer.herokuapp.com/1994-06-11
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25. LgWood+oR[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 20:06:50
>>anonym+oQ
Sorry, must be my eyes going.

June 03, 1994

https://www.reddit.com/r/egg_irl/s/zoFG1Ox2Dv

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26. tim333+R21[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 20:53:25
>>dragon+9b
I'm not sure being against DEI stuff is completely off the rails.
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27. Wesoly+4e1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 21:35:24
>>diydsp+Qn
That was when I stopped reading his blog.

It’s one thing to, say, acknowledge and respect the cleverness of a villain succeeding by pulling a trick and then deconstruct the trick.

It’s a totally different thing when you go beyond mere respect/acknowledgement and start incessantly praising the villain’s cleverness, professing your love for the villain, worshipping the villain, publicly fantasizing about having hot sex with the villain, etc.

Adams at first was vaguely alluding to do the first thing, but testing the waters showed him which side of the sandwich was buttered, and he went fully with the second.

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28. dpkirc+qe1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 21:37:19
>>maxbon+UC
I wonder if any of his then-peers who were also white men got promoted? I'm betting it was non-zero.
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29. mrguyo+2l1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 22:03:49
>>mikeyo+U6
>Later on there was a ton of weird anti-feminist content in the comics

Others provide convincing demonstrations of what Adams himself said about women so this is more of a tangent....

But good god that was well within the era of "I hate my wife" comedy being rampant. I will never understand fellow men who seem to think "Women suck" or "The person I married is garbage" as the pinnacle of humor.

It's just not funny.

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30. mikeyo+6D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-13 23:32:51
>>mrguyo+2l1
Yeah every once in awhile I’ll catch an old comedy special and it’s almost jarring how much of the content from some comics was “my wife is awful and she’s really dumb for expecting things from me”.

Neighbors of a certain age have that same mindset.. “Want to come over for a drink and get away from the ball and chain?” Or “After your done with the lawn, would your wife let you come over for a drink?”

I mean I wouldn’t mind grabbing a beer but your view of relationships is exceptionally weird.

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31. amroch+XP1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 00:48:06
>>Aloha+1a
Funny enough, to get to actual representative diversity you need to explicitly hire underrepresented candidates and pass up on white dudes. Which Scott famously complained about.

Damned if you do damned if you don’t.

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32. cloudf+PV1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 01:33:43
>>LgWood+ok
The joke is that the guys are idiots about women. This isn't misogyny.
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33. parine+t02[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 02:18:53
>>amroch+XP1
> you need to explicitly hire underrepresented candidates and pass up on white dudes

If the initiatives that promoted diversity explicitly said that, they probably wouldn't have passed. The whole argument was about whether that was true because proponents would never be honest about that part so the public debate never got past that.

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34. parine+F02[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 02:20:47
>>mikeyo+6D1
This comes from a generation where people stayed in bad marriages instead of getting a divorce.
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35. Planks+U82[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 03:38:17
>>Anothe+K5
Diversity initiatives are often racist or regressive, in which case they should be mocked, and he wasn’t in the wrong for doing so.
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36. AuryGl+Qj2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 05:32:47
>>dragon+9b
If a show that mostly featured black people was cancelled due to "looking at where it had successes and wanting a coherent demographic story to sell to advertisers and in an era where synergies between the appeals of shows on the same network was important to driving ratings, working to rearrange its offerings to focus on targeting White audiences," would you so readily dismiss the creator at being miffed at that?
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37. profsu+wN2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 10:51:42
>>cloudf+PV1
The "people acknowledge my existence, people hold the door for me" is not about them being idiots. It's Scott arguing that women have it easy compared to men (which may or may not be true, feminists will disagree).
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38. teddyh+se3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 14:05:23
>>LgWood+oR
Better link: <https://dilbert-viewer.herokuapp.com/1994-06-03>
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39. cloudf+Jk3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 14:44:13
>>profsu+wN2
"Men are nice to you because of sex," is not an argument that women have it easy compared to men. It's another joke about men being idiots.
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40. Alexey+El3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 14:49:50
>>seattl+rp
What happened to them?
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41. hashma+rH3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-14 16:23:53
>>tim333+R21
"DEI" is an inherent part of the system - being "against DEI" is simply a statement about what kind of "DEI" you actually want.
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