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Has anyone take the time to prove that out? I was a fan of the comic for years and don't recall there being a lot of casual racism strewn in.

>>cptski+(OP)
Even in early (20 yrs before Trump stuff) interviews, Adams said that one of the reasons he tried various businesses out (like the comic) was that his coprorate manager told him that the manager was being strongly discouraged from promoting white men. That's likely what folks are referencing with regard to his "origin story."

>>cptski+(OP)
I specifically do remember comics poking fun at diversity initiatives. A quick search of "Dilbert comic about diversity" brings up some examples.

At the time i read those i probably thought they were on point. I've changed my views over the years. You can't keep them or you end up like Adams. That's probably the key to understanding him. He grew up in an era where black students were not allowed to attend white schools. The world changed. He didn't.

>>cptski+(OP)
Later on there was a ton of weird anti-feminist content in the comics.. he also had his blog where he wrote way too much so ended up in holocaust-denial and “evolution is fake” territory. Another person talented in one field and pretty unremarkable otherwise who needed to air his terrible opinions about everything else.

>>Anothe+A4
At the time, a lot of them were little more than lipstick on a pig.

It took a long time to actually get to diversity that was beyond token "person of group" inclusivity.

>>jimmyd+f4
He definitely blamed both the end of his career in banking and at PacBell on alleged discrimination against promoting White men in/into management (and I think he claims responsible people at both told him explicitly that that was the reason he was being passed over).

Somewhat later (but still quite a while before what people describe as him “turning”), he would also claim his Dilbert show on UPN was cancelled because he was White, making it the third job he lost for that reason. (More likely, it was cancelled because its audience was both small and White and UPN was, looking at where it had successes and wanting a coherent demographic story to sell to advertisers and in an era where synergies between the appeals of shows on the same network was important to driving ratings, working to rearrange its offerings to focus on targeting Black audiences.)

>>Aloha+R8
> It took a long time to actually get to diversity that was beyond token "person of group" inclusivity.

Are we really beyond that now?

Many of the initiatives I've experienced are the same thing today, which is why I'm not a big fan.

>>dragon+Z9
I'm not sure being against DEI stuff is completely off the rails.

>>mikeyo+K5
>Later on there was a ton of weird anti-feminist content in the comics

Others provide convincing demonstrations of what Adams himself said about women so this is more of a tangent....

But good god that was well within the era of "I hate my wife" comedy being rampant. I will never understand fellow men who seem to think "Women suck" or "The person I married is garbage" as the pinnacle of humor.

It's just not funny.

>>mrguyo+Sj1
Yeah every once in awhile I’ll catch an old comedy special and it’s almost jarring how much of the content from some comics was “my wife is awful and she’s really dumb for expecting things from me”.

Neighbors of a certain age have that same mindset.. “Want to come over for a drink and get away from the ball and chain?” Or “After your done with the lawn, would your wife let you come over for a drink?”

I mean I wouldn’t mind grabbing a beer but your view of relationships is exceptionally weird.

>>Aloha+R8
Funny enough, to get to actual representative diversity you need to explicitly hire underrepresented candidates and pass up on white dudes. Which Scott famously complained about.

Damned if you do damned if you don’t.

>>amroch+NO1
> you need to explicitly hire underrepresented candidates and pass up on white dudes

If the initiatives that promoted diversity explicitly said that, they probably wouldn't have passed. The whole argument was about whether that was true because proponents would never be honest about that part so the public debate never got past that.

>>mikeyo+WB1
This comes from a generation where people stayed in bad marriages instead of getting a divorce.

>>Anothe+A4
Diversity initiatives are often racist or regressive, in which case they should be mocked, and he wasn’t in the wrong for doing so.

>>dragon+Z9
If a show that mostly featured black people was cancelled due to "looking at where it had successes and wanting a coherent demographic story to sell to advertisers and in an era where synergies between the appeals of shows on the same network was important to driving ratings, working to rearrange its offerings to focus on targeting White audiences," would you so readily dismiss the creator at being miffed at that?

>>tim333+H11
"DEI" is an inherent part of the system - being "against DEI" is simply a statement about what kind of "DEI" you actually want.