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1. mattl+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:38:54
What’s your user agent with that browser?
replies(1): >>PrimeM+l1
2. PrimeM+l1[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:49:21
>>mattl+(OP)
Same as FireFox normal.
replies(1): >>mattl+D1
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3. mattl+D1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 23:51:15
>>PrimeM+l1
Interesting. When I used Iceweasel it was different enough to break sites.
replies(1): >>PrimeM+B3
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4. PrimeM+B3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 00:06:00
>>mattl+D1
I'm guessing that was because Debian refused/wasn't able to sue the Firefox branding and they extended that to the user agent. So a ton of sites just saw Iceweasel as the UA and broke because it was unexpected.
replies(1): >>mattl+b4
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5. mattl+b4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 00:10:46
>>PrimeM+B3
Yeah I’m surprised more forks don’t have this issue. Maybe they’re too small for Mozilla to care.
replies(3): >>lolind+Un >>PrimeM+ls >>aragil+vT
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6. lolind+Un[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 03:12:30
>>mattl+b4
LibreWolf isn't strictly a fork of Firefox, it's a preconfigured installation that locks things down and disables anti-features. So it's strictly accurate to use the Firefox user agent, because that's what actually gets compiled.
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7. PrimeM+ls[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 03:51:49
>>mattl+b4
Wasn't the issue with the Iceweasel UA purely on Debian's end, them not like or agreeing to the Firefox terms? I don't think most forks would have that issue
replies(1): >>aragil+pT
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8. aragil+pT[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 07:53:59
>>PrimeM+ls
No, it was a trademark issue, raised by Mozilla (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622) and seemingly resolved on their (Mozilla's) end (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006). For what it's worth, the recent Rust trademark issue seems to be of a similar vein (and the justifications around the Firefox sound like those used in Rust).
replies(2): >>PrimeM+i21 >>accoun+rEc
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9. aragil+vT[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 07:55:22
>>mattl+b4
Mozilla apparently fixed this (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006) so it sounds like forks don't have that issue now?
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10. PrimeM+i21[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 09:19:38
>>aragil+pT
Thanks for clarifying!
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11. accoun+rEc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-30 16:05:47
>>aragil+pT
Can you provide any evidence that the User Agent name was a trademark issue. As in the name exposed to websites. Because that is the only thing that matters here and also where everyone claims to be a variant of Mozilla for compatibility.
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