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1. PrimeM+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:49:21
Same as FireFox normal.
replies(1): >>mattl+i
2. mattl+i[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:51:15
>>PrimeM+(OP)
Interesting. When I used Iceweasel it was different enough to break sites.
replies(1): >>PrimeM+g2
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3. PrimeM+g2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 00:06:00
>>mattl+i
I'm guessing that was because Debian refused/wasn't able to sue the Firefox branding and they extended that to the user agent. So a ton of sites just saw Iceweasel as the UA and broke because it was unexpected.
replies(1): >>mattl+Q2
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4. mattl+Q2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 00:10:46
>>PrimeM+g2
Yeah I’m surprised more forks don’t have this issue. Maybe they’re too small for Mozilla to care.
replies(3): >>lolind+zm >>PrimeM+0r >>aragil+aS
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5. lolind+zm[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 03:12:30
>>mattl+Q2
LibreWolf isn't strictly a fork of Firefox, it's a preconfigured installation that locks things down and disables anti-features. So it's strictly accurate to use the Firefox user agent, because that's what actually gets compiled.
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6. PrimeM+0r[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 03:51:49
>>mattl+Q2
Wasn't the issue with the Iceweasel UA purely on Debian's end, them not like or agreeing to the Firefox terms? I don't think most forks would have that issue
replies(1): >>aragil+4S
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7. aragil+4S[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 07:53:59
>>PrimeM+0r
No, it was a trademark issue, raised by Mozilla (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622) and seemingly resolved on their (Mozilla's) end (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006). For what it's worth, the recent Rust trademark issue seems to be of a similar vein (and the justifications around the Firefox sound like those used in Rust).
replies(2): >>PrimeM+X01 >>accoun+6Dc
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8. aragil+aS[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 07:55:22
>>mattl+Q2
Mozilla apparently fixed this (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006) so it sounds like forks don't have that issue now?
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9. PrimeM+X01[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 09:19:38
>>aragil+4S
Thanks for clarifying!
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10. accoun+6Dc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-30 16:05:47
>>aragil+4S
Can you provide any evidence that the User Agent name was a trademark issue. As in the name exposed to websites. Because that is the only thing that matters here and also where everyone claims to be a variant of Mozilla for compatibility.
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