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1. PrimeM+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:24:41
I switched to LibreWolf (A fork of Firefox with privacy enhancements and ublock preinstalled) and haven't had to deal with anything like this since.
replies(3): >>mattl+22 >>ReadCa+42 >>mikae1+92
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2. mattl+22[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:38:54
>>PrimeM+(OP)
What’s your user agent with that browser?
replies(1): >>PrimeM+n3
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3. ReadCa+42[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:39:07
>>PrimeM+(OP)
Just have in mind that some advanced privacy enhancements (like toggling privacy.resistFingerprinting) can break sites in random ways: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1666160 .
replies(2): >>PrimeM+w3 >>accoun+GFc
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4. mikae1+92[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:39:36
>>PrimeM+(OP)
> I switched to Librefox

You mean LibreWolf?

replies(1): >>PrimeM+h3
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5. PrimeM+h3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 23:48:49
>>mikae1+92
Yes, thanks. Fixed.
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6. PrimeM+n3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 23:49:21
>>mattl+22
Same as FireFox normal.
replies(1): >>mattl+F3
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7. PrimeM+w3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 23:50:04
>>ReadCa+42
privacy.resistFingerprinting is something I had to set to false in my user.js, but I had my own user.js with my own privacy settings anyway. The rest of the settings it provides are very good for a default though.
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8. mattl+F3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 23:51:15
>>PrimeM+n3
Interesting. When I used Iceweasel it was different enough to break sites.
replies(1): >>PrimeM+D5
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9. PrimeM+D5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 00:06:00
>>mattl+F3
I'm guessing that was because Debian refused/wasn't able to sue the Firefox branding and they extended that to the user agent. So a ton of sites just saw Iceweasel as the UA and broke because it was unexpected.
replies(1): >>mattl+d6
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10. mattl+d6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 00:10:46
>>PrimeM+D5
Yeah I’m surprised more forks don’t have this issue. Maybe they’re too small for Mozilla to care.
replies(3): >>lolind+Wp >>PrimeM+nu >>aragil+xV
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11. lolind+Wp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 03:12:30
>>mattl+d6
LibreWolf isn't strictly a fork of Firefox, it's a preconfigured installation that locks things down and disables anti-features. So it's strictly accurate to use the Firefox user agent, because that's what actually gets compiled.
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12. PrimeM+nu[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 03:51:49
>>mattl+d6
Wasn't the issue with the Iceweasel UA purely on Debian's end, them not like or agreeing to the Firefox terms? I don't think most forks would have that issue
replies(1): >>aragil+rV
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13. aragil+rV[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 07:53:59
>>PrimeM+nu
No, it was a trademark issue, raised by Mozilla (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622) and seemingly resolved on their (Mozilla's) end (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006). For what it's worth, the recent Rust trademark issue seems to be of a similar vein (and the justifications around the Firefox sound like those used in Rust).
replies(2): >>PrimeM+k41 >>accoun+tGc
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14. aragil+xV[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 07:55:22
>>mattl+d6
Mozilla apparently fixed this (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815006) so it sounds like forks don't have that issue now?
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15. PrimeM+k41[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 09:19:38
>>aragil+rV
Thanks for clarifying!
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16. accoun+GFc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-30 16:03:05
>>ReadCa+42
Breaking (shitty and user-hostile) websites by default is still a lot better than ignoring your privacy preferences and trying to psychologically manipulate you by default.
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17. accoun+tGc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-30 16:05:47
>>aragil+rV
Can you provide any evidence that the User Agent name was a trademark issue. As in the name exposed to websites. Because that is the only thing that matters here and also where everyone claims to be a variant of Mozilla for compatibility.
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