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Thanks dang!

You've helped keep HN readable, corrected countless title and link errors, and prevented heated discussions from devolving into fights.

I also am super thankful for your help getting my "Show HN" post to the front page.

We all appreciate you.

>>echelo+(OP)
Seconding the props for Dan -- and reminding folks to thank Sam (the quiet one), too!

>>echelo+(OP)
What help is available to get show hn posts to the front page?

>>crispy+0S
Following their post history, it looks like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380.

>>echelo+(OP)
Seconded! HN is my favorite community that I’ve come across online, and Dan and Sam’s work in curating comments and posts is a huge reason why.

>>echelo+(OP)
TIL it's "Dan G" and not the Chinese surname "Dang" that I'd always assumed.

>>echelo+(OP)
I'm going to throw one out for dang here. I took your moderating personally when I first joined here, got banned for some comments I didn't think were that bad, hell i've made worse since, spent a while posting greyed out comments going off at dang, posted some not so shitty comments that got given a chance, realized I should try harder in my comments and just push my way back in by writing things that contribute better to HN.

It would have been easy to start a new account, but I liked warring with dang at the time. I even emailed him a bunch appealing my, what I still believe is not really all that bad of a comment, but I accept why it got me in shit as a newer commenter. It spurred me to just try harder at contributing better.

Eventually, I was just randomly unbanned. Since then, i've come appreciate HN's moderation style.

There's really not many places on the internet with such lax account rules, yet mostly good conversation.

I appreciate the surprisingly wide range of topics and viewpoints generally allowed here. It does get a bit echo chambery, but mostly, any issue tends to get both sides heard as long as comments are written constructively.

Also, just learning about the purpose of this site helped. This is a news website, first and foremost, for people interested in funding from YC. It may have expanded since then, but the moderation does reflect the intended purpose of this site and just generally the kind of discourse expected from people interested in YC funding or other such things.

>>grawpr+Ce1
I respect how you've grown as a result of your interaction with HN. We're not about trying to stay just below the line here. There's no nefarious Man holding us down. We just want a certain level of civil discourse. I try not to say anything here that I wouldn't say in person, or wouldn't want tied to my real identity. I can be obnoxious at times, here and in person, and I appreciate being called out for it. HN is now the only place I interact with random Internet people, because the civility level is so high.

>>mayank+T31
I first assumed D. Ang

>>chrisw+TK
What is the name of Sam's account?

>>ijidak+Zq1
The article mentions Scott who I think is @sctb.

>>Isamu+lq1
I've been assuming literal dang as in "dang! the update crashed the OS"

>>prawn+Yt1
Scott, alas, stopped working on HN about a year ago.

>>3np+8u1
Yes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22767296

>>mayank+T31
Haha yes I discovered this like a year ago, and still get a kick out of it when I'm so overloaded that I am reflecting on usernames as opposed to getting work done...

>>3np+8u1
Same here... so happy to get this reaffirmed by @dang himself in a sibling comment!

>>foota+uT
Thanks for linking that. TIL: sorting rank is a function of timestamp and votes, so when the mods push a story back to the front page, instead of special-casing the behavior, they just (get a computer to) fabricate a submission timestamp that puts the story in appropriate place on the front page.

It's a clever hack, alright, but dang if I didn't start to think I was going crazy, because something felt off with timestamps and surely the mods wouldn't be silently messing with those...

>>grawpr+Ce1
I'm banned right now, and I find it refreshing.

>>mayank+T31
Also surprised to learned that back then, but it's too late I already got used in reading it as "dang"

>>mayank+T31
Mar 2014, Paul Graham

I’m delighted to announce that Daniel Gackle (pronounced Gackley), who has already been doing most of the moderation for the last 18 months, is going to join YC full-time to be in charge of the HN community. Many HN users know Daniel as gruseom, though now he’s going to switch to the slightly more legit sounding dang.

https://blog.ycombinator.com/meet-the-people-taking-over-hac...

>>chrisw+TK
Rumour is that there is now a mod team, though dang is the public (and email) voice. sctb (Scott) left about a year ago.

>>crispy+0S
Second-chance queue.

I've had several submissions re-upped. I nominate others (via email) on occaision. '2nd chance nom', plus submission link.

Do NOT ask me to do this --- I base my recommendations on what strikes me as 1) credible content 2) that seems underappreciated. The submission queue ("new" link in top menue) is quite busy.

>>joshxy+H62
In my head it's always been "dang" as in rhymes with "clang". dan+g is just the etymology.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22767296

>>TeMPOr+aT1
It's not a great solution because it confuses the people who notice. The problem is that it's even more confusing if we re-up posts that say "3 days ago" or whatever onto the front page. Then the threads fill up with "why is this 3 days ago post on the front page"?

Another option would be to clone the old submission into a new one, but then we get more dupes. And I don't know of any viable fourth option.

>>dang+Jc3
Fourth option - don't show dates or timestamps at all. The age of the actual article is what matters, and people can find that out by actually reading the article.

Would that not be viable?

>>dang+Jc3
Maybe display the old timestamp, but also display a visible "re-up" tag next to it? This way it'll be obvious the submission was reinserted manually to give it a second chance.

>>krapp+Fb4
I think there's a lot of information in those timestamps. They convey the rhythms of the site. Of course that's also why fudging them causes confusion...

>>TeMPOr+eR4
Well that's certainly a fourth option! I'll think about it.

>>echelo+(OP)
Yes, sir! Thanks!!!