I respect how you've grown as a result of your interaction with HN. We're not about trying to stay just below the line here. There's no nefarious Man holding us down. We just want a certain level of civil discourse. I try not to say anything here that I wouldn't say in person, or wouldn't want tied to my real identity. I can be obnoxious at times, here and in person, and I appreciate being called out for it. HN is now the only place I interact with random Internet people, because the civility level is so high.