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> It manages to go up a bit, so it's fast enough to get airborne. The normal looking rotation kills too much energy.

Yes, it did get airborne for a few seconds but from the video below, it looks like the left wing was damaged by the fire and could not provide enough lift, then the right wing rolled the plane to the left causing the crash.

https://bsky.app/profile/shipwreck75.bsky.social/post/3m4tvh...

>>bigbad+(OP)
> looks like the left wing was damaged by the fire

The wings and aerodynamics don't really care if air or air with combustion are flowing around them.

Roll is a consequence of the loss of control due to low speed and the yaw of the good engines. Speed up, rudder works, plane might maintain positive climb.

>>positr+q3
> The wings and aerodynamics don't really care if air or air with combustion are flowing around them.

Not saying it's what happened here, but if the heat is intense enough to deform the wing / control surfaces, it matters.

>>loeg+Ae
For skin, a few seconds might be significant. For the spars, not nearly enough time to matter. It's also not at cruise speed slamming into a downdraft or anything. This is about a 1G loading. Negligible for a while. While the fire looks cool, there's a lot of free stream mixing in and the temps won't really get that high beyond the cowling.

>>positr+Rg
More likely is the hydraulics on that side burst, leading to a loss of pressure keeping the control surfaces deployed. If that lead to the leading-edge slats retracting (like they did in AA 191) you'd get a massive loss of lift on that side. The structural parts of the wing didn't have time to melt, but the fire certainly could damage all the internal control materials.