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The use of tags vs discrete communities keeps it from being a viable alternative to Reddit for me.

I have a real disdain for tags for user generated content. Every site I have seen use tags I end up having to wade through a ton of spam or vaugly related content to whatever tag I am looking for. The only exception I can think of is Hashtags for twitter but that is due to the character limit.

I understand that people see tages as a solution to crossposting but I think people overlook the benefits of crossposting. Being able to have seperate conversations on AI art in an art community vs programming community is more useful to me than having a single post that both communities comment on.

>>bardak+(OP)
I like hashtags - but, like you, I don't think they work as the primary means of content discovery.

>>bardak+(OP)
I think an option to only show comments from people subscribed to the same communities as you, or the community you're viewing the content from could solve this.

>>kraftm+32
What do you do when there are comment threads between subscribers of different tags. Or what if somebody is subscribed to both tags but wanting to comment based more on the viewpoint of one of the tags.

I'm not saying it couldn't work but I don't think it would be as trivial as that.

I also like that subreddits were able to foster their own communities with different expectations and cultures. I feel like using tags you are more or less forced to have a single overall community vs many smaller ones.

>>bardak+(OP)
It's a hybrid model, and I'd be curious if people like this or not as it's been something I'm fiddling with.

Note that when you vote, you upvote the tag itself. The vote within the tag determines its order when browsing the tag itself. So if something is tagged with #formula1 and has 483 upvotes for the tag, it will appear high in the #formula1 list view. If it's also tagged with #funny with 1 upvote, it will appear low in the #funny list despite the high votes on #formula1.

>>Gordon+X
Honestly I believe that hashtags only work on twitter due to the character limit. If hashtags were exempt from the character limit it would be a complete mess.

>>bardak+ba
I took a stab at this a long time ago and I came up with two solutions,

The first is an account setting for the user that allows them to hide all comments from people that arent part of any community that the post shows up in: https://github.com/kraftman/TenTags.io/blob/bc6f3046dda4815b...

The second is to allow filtering all of the comments by the communities the comments came from: https://github.com/kraftman/TenTags.io/blob/dev/api-cdn/view...

>>jjcm+7b
That is a pretty good solution to the relevant tags and spam issues I was worried about. Good thinking there. One half of my issues gone.

The single conversation is still a big problem for me. I really like being able to have conversations within a specific community and get specific angles on a topic. I also like to look at a conversation on the same topic in different subreddits to see how different communities react. It's not to say that one way is inhertly better but more of a personal preference.

>>jjcm+7b
Yah the main feature I'm looking for on your site is to be able to create my own subs for different topics like I have on Reddit. I like the pay to vote feature, but missing subs is really a deal breaker.

>>geuis+Tz
Except that’s kind of the whole problem with Reddit; little fiefdoms developed where some users controlled the content other users consumed.

It’s not how anyone would actively choose to create a network now, knowing what we know about how often people abuse power online.

>>bardak+(OP)
It works well for content focused platforms. Booru type websites come to mind, they are famous for their excellent community tagging.

Danbooru even has community sourced translations overlaid to pictures.

>>kraftm+Je
In this case, what is the community? There are only tags.

>>jjcm+7b
Out of interest if you vote for the same content multiple times (for its multiple tags), does that count as one vote or many in the payment calculation?

>>bardak+Ji
Maybe if you could tag the root comments the same way? So when you come from browsing #formula1 you see #formula1 tagged comments first? And when you start a new root comment it defaults to being tagged from where you came from? But you could also add #funny if it is a funny comment? That could be cool

>>bardak+Ji
To get two conversations it could just be posted twice with different tags? It's then up to the poster to decide in that case, not sure if that solves your problem.

>>jjcm+7b
There's still no incentive here to keep tags at a minimum. What if you'd use the lowest upvote score of all tags, for all tags? Optionally corrected for sub size. So min(corrected(upvotes in #formula1), corrected(upvotes in #funny)).

>>bardak+(OP)
I think having a single "sub" in the beginning is fundamental int he beginning. Otherwise you just have dozens of sub-forums that are ghost towns. Eventually moving to discreet sub-forums when traffic increases seems like a reasonable compromise.

>>lopis+Eq2
But that would mean that initially, I have to wade through all kinds of worthless annoying stuff. I suspect it will be 40% politics, 30% sportsball, 20% Kardashians, 9% car culture, and 1% other. I'm going to give up before we ever get to sub-forums.