Do the "bunny ears" way of tying your shoes but loop both "ears" through. Presto, a knot that won't work its way undone and you can usually tell when you step on a lace because there's so much resistance.
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/twoloopknot.htm
Professor Shoelace kind of looks like a topology professor of mine.
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
https://www.animatedknots.com/square-knot
https://www.animatedknots.com/shoelace-bow-knot
The latter page links back to the submitted link!
This one has two twists instead of the normal one, and comes out like a square knot if done right. It won't come untied by itself, ever. But you can untie it by tugging on the tails of the laces. You can do this one with a thumb on the initial bend, unlike the "bunny ears" style knots.
It's a hell of a lot better than the "double knot" your kids' teachers will do if they go to school with any kind of single knot, square or not. Double knotting just results in big jams when one tries to untie it later.
Check out the surgeon's knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/surgeonknot.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMBSblpcrc
That and using the back of my hand/arm to push off the water from my body after a shower keep our towels much dryer and nicer.
The perspective of the picture fooled me for a moment too, but this knot is in the usual position.
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknotanalyser.htm
What a wonderful website.
https://www.bestshoe99.in/how-to-tie-shoelaces/
It is symmetrical, it looks beautiful, it takes about as much time to tie and it has exactly zero chance of untying itself.
It has never failed me since I learned it.
Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor:
There is also https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm.
There is a handy listing of which knots are actually different towards the bottom of this page: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knotcomparison.htm#identica...
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/doublestartknot.htm
And then also a surgeons knot is shown:
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/surgeonknot.htm
(which doesn't use the double starting knot)
I do both together, starting with two twists and then also wrapping the loops twice.
I experimented with the double knot following some foot pain; the advantage for me is that the knot doesn't really slip any, allowing me to set the tension I want and not have to revisit it. I guess you then also have to make sure not to over-tighten.
I read about it here: https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/running-doc-d...
From 1994!
So for those kinds of things, I use the ian secure knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm
Actually, with the rawhide nonsense on one pair, even that would eventually come loose so I zip-tied the middle of the knot. :)
https://i.imgur.com/CRxFYwS.png
The end result is identical, not really slower, it's easier to adjust the "proportion' during the process, and it works better with long sleeves with minor adjustment.
The technique I use looks like this: https://youtu.be/_aAeI7p-Tkc?t=11
[0]: https://youtu.be/LXjOLWgWq9kFYI: ABOK #80, #186, #464, #1206 are called Granny knots but not the Granny of shoe knots.
#1212 is the conventional shoe knot, #1215 - #1219 are alternate versions. I don't see a Granny shoe knot except maybe #1220 as a parcel knot, perhaps because it's "wrong" for the cosmetics of shoes. Granny knots were/are a derisive term for dangerous or improper knots. IIRC right rectangular prism parcels were wrapped in brown paper like a Christmas present but then wrapped once in twine, twisted 90 degrees underneath, wrapped again perpendicularly, and then finished with a Granny shoe/parcel knot at a 45 degree? angle. I guess one could also use other knots, but they maybe more difficult to untie.
https://archive.org/details/TheAshleyBookOfKnots has a bazillion knots categorized and with their uses.
https://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/windsor
(Scroll down to Explore More Knots.)
I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son.
I haven't tied the the Pratt knot before, but it looks like it's a nice nearly symmetrical knot that doesn't use up much of the tie.
And going from "Granny Knot" to "Ian Knot" is actually a lot simpler than relearning the correct way to tie the normal knot. I tried that first ... but relearning the exact same finger movements but mirrored was not possible for me.
I also use his "Secure Knot" [1] when hiking ... although my SO ridicules me for tying shoes with the bunny ears technique :-)
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