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The Berluti knot looks a lot like "Ian's secure knot" mentioned in other threads: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

>>wffurr+(OP)
It is also the same as the Turquoise Turtle knot, mentioned by Brian Toss in his great book, "The Rigger's Apprentice". He discovered it in a clothing store of that name.

The Berluti knot traces back into European aristocracy.

Ian's secure knot neglects to tuck one of the loose ends - it's not as secure.

>>wrycod+q9
I have The Complete Rigger's Apprentice on my bookshelf.

The Turquise Turtle Knot is described on page 357 and it is similar, but not the same as Berluti knot.

>>wffurr+(OP)
That’s the one I use. Comes in handy coaching youth sports. Only problem is you end up tying everybody’s shoes until you teach them all this knot. One of my players taught her dad and his mind was blown.

>>NDizzl+vb
Teach them to tuck shoelace under the already tied lace. Doesn't look nice but makes perfect sense when you are running or playing games. I learned this when I started running long distances and laces become distracting (as practically anything when you do upwards of 20kms).

>>wffurr+(OP)
Slightly different. And also covered on Ian's Shoelace Site: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/berluti-knot.htm

>>wffurr+(OP)
So having immediately tried this knot, I cannot get it to lay with the laces to the side like that. Mine turns vertical. My first assumption was that I was making a granny knot, but it doesn't matter which way around I knot the second knot.

Is this just a failing of this knot or am I doing something wrong?

>>Doxin+FF
You are making berluti version of granny knot or granny version of berluti knot (which may very well be the same thing but I just can't decide how to name this correctly).

>>lmilci+nT
Well yes, that much I figured, but that happens no matter which way around I tuck the loops. I'm looking more specifically for what to do differently to not end up with a granny variation.

>>Doxin+m28
The idea of correct version is that the loops (ears) come out parallel to the part that is horizontal under tension.

I don't remember how to tie the knot. Instead when I am in the middle of tying it I imagine which way the ears will come out and if it will not go the correct way I take the other direction (there is only two possible ways to tie it).