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The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique:

https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs

Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor:

https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

>>js2+(OP)
That Full Windsor - it's a revelation to me that it looks good even without the top button of the shirt buttoned. I also thought I had to button the top button of my shirt, which I hate.

>>js2+(OP)
Every time I try to do the Japanese fold... this is how it ends up: https://i.imgur.com/FBYu2Ry.gif

>>js2+(OP)
I honestly never find that folding technique better than just.. fold it thrice using the exactly same three folding lines:

https://i.imgur.com/CRxFYwS.png

The end result is identical, not really slower, it's easier to adjust the "proportion' during the process, and it works better with long sleeves with minor adjustment.

>>js2+(OP)
Half Windsor is still more in fashion and still produces a neat, symmetrical knot. Beware, though, after learning a good knot you will see the four in hand knot everywhere and it will annoy you.

>>js2+(OP)
> Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor

I mean, if you are into attempts to simulate the look of a four-in-hand knot used on a wider piece of material as popularized by a particular celebrity Nazi sympathizer, sure.

Unless you are particularly tall, in which case finding ties long enough to wear with a full windsor is enough trouble that you might as well find something wide enough to achieve the effect the authentic way with a four-in-hand.

>>dragon+WO
The Windsor looks nothing like the four-in-hand. It's a symmetric, full knot. The four-in-hand is asymmetric and skinny. I happen to think the Windsor is the best looking knot here:

https://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/windsor

(Scroll down to Explore More Knots.)

I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son.

I haven't tied the the Pratt knot before, but it looks like it's a nice nearly symmetrical knot that doesn't use up much of the tie.

>>globul+YM
I've been using the Full Windsor since my dad taught it to me when I was 13. I'm not much one for fashion, but I think it's a timeless knot. Apparently James Bond didn't think much of it though. :-)

>>js2+pA1
> the Windsor looks nothing like the four-in-hand

The Windsor is an attempt to simulate, with a common tie, the look of a knot the late Duke of Windsor was known to wear, which was, in fact, a four-in-hand tied on a much wider (and, I suspect—though I have seen no documentation on this point—differently shaped) piece of material than common ties.

> I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son.

I’m not sure what relevance that has; I learned it about the same age, also from my father (who I suspect didn’t learn it from his father, whose personality, age, and socioeconomic background probably would not have inclined him to jump on that particular newfangled fashion trend.)