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1. iandin+a5[view] [source] 2021-04-19 20:30:25
>>Tomte+(OP)
A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it.

[0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

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2. js2+el[view] [source] 2021-04-19 22:31:19
>>iandin+a5
The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique:

https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs

Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor:

https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

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3. dragon+aa1[view] [source] 2021-04-20 07:38:17
>>js2+el
> Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor

I mean, if you are into attempts to simulate the look of a four-in-hand knot used on a wider piece of material as popularized by a particular celebrity Nazi sympathizer, sure.

Unless you are particularly tall, in which case finding ties long enough to wear with a full windsor is enough trouble that you might as well find something wide enough to achieve the effect the authentic way with a four-in-hand.

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4. js2+DV1[view] [source] 2021-04-20 13:55:42
>>dragon+aa1
The Windsor looks nothing like the four-in-hand. It's a symmetric, full knot. The four-in-hand is asymmetric and skinny. I happen to think the Windsor is the best looking knot here:

https://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/windsor

(Scroll down to Explore More Knots.)

I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son.

I haven't tied the the Pratt knot before, but it looks like it's a nice nearly symmetrical knot that doesn't use up much of the tie.

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5. dragon+Mo2[view] [source] 2021-04-20 16:06:16
>>js2+DV1
> the Windsor looks nothing like the four-in-hand

The Windsor is an attempt to simulate, with a common tie, the look of a knot the late Duke of Windsor was known to wear, which was, in fact, a four-in-hand tied on a much wider (and, I suspect—though I have seen no documentation on this point—differently shaped) piece of material than common ties.

> I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son.

I’m not sure what relevance that has; I learned it about the same age, also from my father (who I suspect didn’t learn it from his father, whose personality, age, and socioeconomic background probably would not have inclined him to jump on that particular newfangled fashion trend.)

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