If you were employed by a company and disparaged them publicly, breaking company policy, would you believe that your employment with them is in any way protected?
That’s not to say I disagree with workers’ protections only tat if you believe strongly then protections or not should not be much of a consideration.
That said, is Amazon acting illegally so you’re calling that out or do I just disagree with their position?
Do I get outraged at them? Should they be outraged at me? Did anyone of us do anything illegal?
It doesn't sound like Amazon is attempting to hide anything here.
Google had a similar policy and, after losing NLRA cases, had to issue a notice to all employees saying that its previous policies no longer included discussing working conditions with the public.
Amazon will likely get sued over this, and very likely lose in a similar matter, as their conduct here is even more egregious.
While warehouse workers could file suit under the National Labor Relations Act if fired for speaking publicly of their own working conditions, I'm not sure that Amazon's UX team would qualify (but again, IANAL).
To draw an analogy: Would a DoorDash engineer be safe speaking out against the working conditions of DoorDash drivers?
Firing designers for complaining about their unsanitary working conditions is illegal. Firing warehouse workers for complaining about their unsanitary working conditions is illegal. Firing designers and warehouse workers for attempting to organize together is illegal.
Firing designers for talking about someone else's working conditions isn't "one weird trick" for avoiding the law here.
I assume they want less buzz about work conditions.
They should be, but you might be right that the National Labor Relations Act (or other applicable law) isn't doing its job.
>I assume they want less buzz about work conditions.
I don't think this is the case. They have been public about responding to the media and have been posting daily updates through their own site. The link to their blog discussing workers' conditions is on the front page of Amazon.com.
You are a lawyer and are making this claim as someone who is educated in labor law? Or you have a citation to share with us, or something of that nature? Perhaps the chapter and verse of the law that makes this move illegal? Or a case where it was found that workers have the right to publicly comment on other workers' working conditions as long as they work at the same company?
> Under the NLRA, it is illegal for your employer to:
> Fire, demote, or transfer you, or reduce your hours or change your shift, or otherwise take adverse action against you, or threaten to take any of these actions, because you join or support a union, or because you engage in concerted activity for mutual aid and protection, or because you choose not to engage in any such activity.
You can get a basic overview of this topic by googling things like NLRA, NLRB, and protected concerted activity, including very recent examples of how these concepts have applied. They're much broader protections than you think, and Amazon has very clearly broken them. That's why their spokesman is giving out contradictory statements like saying that they allow employees to discuss eachother's working conditions, then firing them for exactly that.
Do not fall into the trap of thinking that "the company has a policy" or "at-will employment" means "you have no legal rights".