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1. Iv+(OP)[view] [source] 2019-07-02 16:03:52
That's worse IMO.

I can (and would) opt out of taking my phone to China. I can't easily dodge US' requirements.

These two bully super-powers really give me a bad feeling about the future...

replies(3): >>Japhy_+F >>nullwa+Y7 >>chaost+bj
2. Japhy_+F[view] [source] 2019-07-02 16:09:11
>>Iv+(OP)
I can (and would) opt out of going to China.

I'm all set with authoritarian dictatorships with torture camps and organ harvesting.

3. nullwa+Y7[view] [source] 2019-07-02 16:50:33
>>Iv+(OP)
What if you just say no? I don't use any social media and it can't be that unusual
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4. newsca+Ib[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-07-02 17:12:09
>>nullwa+Y7
IANAL but that could be interpreted as lying to a federal officer, given your participation in Hacker News discussions
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5. tatami+Qc[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-07-02 17:19:07
>>newsca+Ib
But when internet forums count as social media, few can provide a complete list of websites they have engaged with.

I definitely can't recall every one of those I had been on in the last decades.

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6. EForEn+zd[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-07-02 17:24:05
>>newsca+Ib
I wonder if one could truthfully state "no, I'm not on any social media [at this exact moment, since I'm talking to you and not actively using any social media]" and avoid any potential legal trouble, or if there's some clause or mechanism in whatever law applies here that's designed specifically to address intentionally misleading word choices.
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7. EForEn+Sd[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-07-02 17:25:53
>>tatami+Qc
The law will have to define explicitly what it means to have an active social media account.
8. chaost+bj[view] [source] 2019-07-02 17:54:21
>>Iv+(OP)
I think it's far easier to offer up dummy social accounts (even for non-techies) vs being forced to install malware on your phone.
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9. Theodo+uB[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-07-02 19:47:42
>>chaost+bj
I am not very good at lying. I would not be able to look an officer in the eye and say that I wasn't on social media.

Leaving a posh phone at home to take my old phone I could do without moral complications. I could even say I left my posh phone at home because I didn't want it lost/stolen on my travels. That would not be lying even if the real reason was that I didn't want it violated by a customs officer.

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