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[return to "Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft"]
1. 9dev+w9[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:37:33
>>JimDab+(OP)
I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever lies ahead without any concern whatsoever, and learn it the hard way.

It’s a bit tragic that Ilya and company achieved the exact opposite of what they intended apparently, by driving those they attempted to slow down into the arms of people with more money and less morals. Well.

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2. Terrif+Fn[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:55:52
>>9dev+w9
> It’s a bit tragic that Ilya and company achieved the exact opposite of what they intended apparently, by driving those they attempted to slow down into the arms of people with more money and less morals. Well.

If they didn’t fire him, Altman will just continue to run hog wild over their charter. In that sense they lose either way.

At least this way, OpenAI can continue to operate independently instead of being Microsoft’s zombie vassal company with their mole Altman pulling the strings.

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3. stingr+pu[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:43:44
>>Terrif+Fn
How will they be able to continue doing their things without money?

It seems like people forget that it was the investors’ money that made all this possible in the first place.

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4. fevang+GF[view] [source] 2023-11-20 11:59:53
>>stingr+pu
100M users perhaps?
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5. stingr+vH[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:13:27
>>fevang+GF
But as I understand it they’re still losing money, as much as $0.30 on every ChatGPT query.
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6. johnsi+UJ[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:30:34
>>stingr+vH
Not true

Sama on X said as of late 2022 they were single digit pennies per query and dropping

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7. hef198+aL[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:38:47
>>johnsi+UJ
The only financial statements I believe are those signed of by external auditors. And even there my trust only goes that far.
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8. insani+JM[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:49:12
>>hef198+aL
Pretty sure that it would be illegal for them to tweet insider information like that if it were false, since it's effectively a statement to shareholders.
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9. hef198+ZM[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:50:23
>>insani+JM
I'll take securities fraud for 420, please, but private.
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10. insani+rN[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:52:50
>>hef198+ZM
That's exactly the point - by tweeting insider information you are making a public statement. We've learned this very recently...
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11. hashha+Ui1[view] [source] 2023-11-20 15:00:44
>>insani+rN
Parent meant probably meant that there's no securities fraud since no securities are involved as it's not a traded company.
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12. insani+X82[view] [source] 2023-11-20 18:44:32
>>hashha+Ui1
The shareholders are still invested, they still have a 401A Evaluation, and these statements are definitely going to have legal weight.
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