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Apple literally lives on the "Cutting Edge" a-la XKCD [1]. My wife is an iPerson and she always tells me about these new features (my phone has had them since $today-5 years). But for her, these are brand new exciting things!

https://xkcd.com/606/

>>calvin+(OP)
How many chat products has Google come out with? Google messenger, buzz, wave, meet, Google+, hangouts… Apple has iMessage and FaceTime. You just restated OP’s point. Apple evolves things slowly and comes to market when the problems have already been solved in a myriad of ways, so they can be solved once and consistently. It’s not about coming to market soonest. How did you get that from what OP said?

>>lukevp+G
"It’s not about coming to market soonest. "

First Mover effect seems only relevant when goverment warrants are involved. Think radio licenses, medical patents, etc. Everywhere else, being a first mover doesnt seem to correlate like it should to success.

>>calvin+w1
Network effects.

See social media, bitcoin, iOS App Store, blu-ray, Xbox live, and I’m sure more I can’t think of rn.

>>drBonk+r3
Network effects are maybe akin to "phsyical effects". Non-monopoly but physical space is also another 'first mover' type of moat.

>>calvin+(OP)
A very tired “red versus blue” take here.

There are plenty of Android/Windows things that Apple has had for $today-5 years that work the exact same way.

One side isn’t better than the other, it’s really just that they copy each other doing various things at a different pace or arrive at that point in different ways.

Some examples:

- Android is/was years behind on granular permissions, e.g. ability to grant limited photo library access to apps

- Android has no platform-wide equivalent to AirTags

- Hardware-backed key storage (Secure Enclave about 5 years ahead of StrongBox)

- system-wide screen recording

>>lukevp+G
Pointless argument given that android isn't just "android". Never has been.

It's a huge, diverse ecosystem of players and that's probably why Android has always gotten the coolest stuff first. But it's also its achilles' heel in some ways.

>>dangus+O5
Android is an OS, not hardware tho so some of those can't really be judged equivalently.

>>fennec+p7
Except operating system and security updates…

>>fennec+A7
Half of my examples were 100% software based, and this list is by no means comprehensive.

Google has been making their own phone hardware since 2010. And surely they can call up Qualcomm and Samsung if they want to.

>>lukevp+G
Android isn't all about Google. Where I live everyone uses WhatsApp and Telegram, both of which have nothing to do with Google.