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1. lukevp+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-05 01:20:47
How many chat products has Google come out with? Google messenger, buzz, wave, meet, Google+, hangouts… Apple has iMessage and FaceTime. You just restated OP’s point. Apple evolves things slowly and comes to market when the problems have already been solved in a myriad of ways, so they can be solved once and consistently. It’s not about coming to market soonest. How did you get that from what OP said?
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2. calvin+Q[view] [source] 2026-02-05 01:28:11
>>lukevp+(OP)
"It’s not about coming to market soonest. "

First Mover effect seems only relevant when goverment warrants are involved. Think radio licenses, medical patents, etc. Everywhere else, being a first mover doesnt seem to correlate like it should to success.

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3. drBonk+L2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 01:44:18
>>calvin+Q
Network effects.

See social media, bitcoin, iOS App Store, blu-ray, Xbox live, and I’m sure more I can’t think of rn.

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4. calvin+s3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 01:49:31
>>drBonk+L2
Network effects are maybe akin to "phsyical effects". Non-monopoly but physical space is also another 'first mover' type of moat.
5. fennec+J6[view] [source] 2026-02-05 02:15:33
>>lukevp+(OP)
Pointless argument given that android isn't just "android". Never has been.

It's a huge, diverse ecosystem of players and that's probably why Android has always gotten the coolest stuff first. But it's also its achilles' heel in some ways.

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6. raw_an+u8[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 02:31:10
>>fennec+J6
Except operating system and security updates…
7. wolvol+Cp[view] [source] 2026-02-05 05:21:54
>>lukevp+(OP)
Android isn't all about Google. Where I live everyone uses WhatsApp and Telegram, both of which have nothing to do with Google.
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