I've also noticed that very obviously LLM-generated comments are called out, and the community tends to agree, but those that have any plausible deniability are given far too much leniency, and people will over-index on the guidelines to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I don't think a captcha is the solution, as it'll degrade conversation by an OOM though.
captcha would make it more of a hassle to post comments.
I find HN much more tolerable this way.
Blocking domains would be nice too. Like substack or medium. I'm happy to just ignore them, but it sure would be nice to filter them out if possible.
I get that it's complicating the system and keeping it simple is perhaps for the best.
Normally I'd agree, but we have shadowbans, which really irks me.
On the more benign side, maybe some people enjoy the musings of amichail on Ask but I could honestly do without.
It’s usually old/high karma accounts, as they can get away with it easier
It’s usually old/high karma accounts, as they can get away with it easier. Throwaways that establish themselves for a time too, but those are usually dealt with eventually
I'm still amazed at how Reddit weaponized the block feature.
If you block someone, you not only can't see their posts, but you ice them out from replying in the rest of the thread.
Almost everyone banned on HN is banned publicly, with a public message explaining why.
I would love for this to be the case, however I quite extensively investigate this phenomenon and this does not match what I've seen. I'd like for us to be better than shadowbans. In some cases, I don't even get to vouch, it's just a comment that is banned-banned. It feels the worst when they're saying something substantive to the conversation and we have no means to surface the comment.
Some type of annual amnesty consideration or something of that nature is in order, or soon we'll recreate other echo chambers that are slowly fading out.
At some point, no matter what HN does, being comfortable with its moderation requires you to take Dan's word for things. I take his word for it on shadowbans.
Ironically, I'm irritated with moderation in the other direction: ten years of "if you keep breaking the guidelines under alternate accounts, we'll ban your real account" sort of makes my blood boil (people having long-running alts does that too), but I roll with it, because I couldn't do the job better than Dan and Tom do.
The one thing I like about this place is that it's well moderated and you have shared opposing view points engaging (mostly) respectfully.
My personal and political views couldn't be further from most HN users (I'm both a Conservative _and_ a practicing Christian), yet I appreciate taking part in various discussion. I enjoy reading about point of views that directly challenge mine.
Let's keep HN respectful and accessible.
You can run temporary unsigned extensions for development purposes, but they are removed after 24 hours or whenever you quit Safari, which would make using it daily a non-starter.
This has gaps, as you know, and doesn't wash. Let someone turn a new leaf. Amnesty puts a stop to this.
I only learned about it after I asked via a non-public channel, with evidence. Otherwise I wouldn't have known, and I suspect most users are unaware. What I cited in previous comment is also from a non-public conversations.
If I'm wrong and it's documented publicly in rules or users are notified when it happens to them, I'm happy to be corrected, link?
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Let's discuss how to make this reality.
Do you want a ranking system where more the people downvote some person, the better? if so how do you prevent spam in that, do you take metrics like karma or what exactly?
I don't think that captcha is a solution either but also that I don't know how to feel about removing entire swaths of people, I can think someone writing something bad once and probably get into this "black-list"
Another aspect is once again the black list, I don't know but do we really need a system of essentially a communal ban?
The only thing I can see it reasonable is if there is a slop bot comment poster but I rarely face this issue but if you do, you can probably create a tampermonkey script and tampermonkey scripts work on chrome,firefox and "Userscripts" which should work on safari as well and that script is most likely gonna be compatible on both tampermonkey and userscripts.
But unlike most HN users who label themselves conservative Christians, you've never suggested that climate change is a hoax:
https://hn.algolia.com/?type=all&query=author:swat535+climat...
I don't ever want to consume information from people who are so illiterate that they believe that scientists all over the world, in fields ranging from geoscience to statistics, are participating in some kind of global conspiracy, regardless of how respectful these commenters are. I block these people immediately after they reveal themselves.
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news.ycombinator.com##tr.athing.comtr:has(a.hnuser):has-text(/\bUsername\b/)In the past “block” used to mean what “mute” means now: Hide from me. I believe it’s around the time Twitter became popular that the meaning has shifted to being a bi-directional mute.
I find that the need for a blocking system as that just points to a broken moderation system, and a broken society at large.
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Though no idea if such a plugin exists for Safari.
https://github.com/insin/comments-owl-for-hacker-news/releas...
If your view is that we should conserve western values and institutions and walk in the footsteps of Christ, ultimately that's not too far from universal human values that many people do in fact agree with.
The devil is in the details, of course.
But mostly in my experience it's otherwise perfectly normal users who at some point just decide to post something racist or bigoted, advocate violence (again, usually in political threads) or antisemitism or espouse some insane conspiracy theory nonsense. At that point I no longer care about anything else they might have to say.
I wrote a fun solution one time where the document comes with a token that needs to mature for a duration depending on the user. Then, when your [say] 30 seconds are expired the input area is displayed but the submit button only appears if you input enough characters - where enough again depends on the user. If you are likely to make low effort postings I want at least 500 or 1000 characters worth of low effort. In even worse cases ill also hold the comment for moderation - until I get to it. (which might be a long time)