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It's clear to me, it's a huge risk for any company to allow access to UK visitors at this stage. All companies should be blocking all UK visitors. It's just too much risk for them to take.

The fault is obviously an incompetent and authoritarian UK government, but that's what the UK overlords have agreed.

>>turble+(OP)
It would be much better to not block them rather serve them a single screen that explains why the rest of the site is unavailable to them citing the specific laws that make the action necessary

>>turble+(OP)
shouldn't it be the other way round? if the UK doesn't like something a non-UK company is doing it should be them that go through the trouble of blocking it.

If I have a website I'm pretty sure I'm bound to break some random country's law without knowing

Answering my own question, I guess it's exceptionalism of the powerful countries where they can just bully you into following their law

>>dylan6+D3
Now:

> {"data":{"error":"Content not available in your region."},"success":false,"status":400}

>>nicksl+A4
"status": 451

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7725

>>lentil+R3
> shouldn't it be the other way round? if the UK doesn't like something a non-UK company is doing it should be them that go through the trouble of blocking it.

They're clearly working up to this; it's what happened with Pirate Bay, etc.

>>kps+y5
I find it interesting that there was no mention of Fahrenheit 451, the very reason they picked that number.

They did at least put a thanks to Ray Bradbury.

>>dwood_+56
Seems like they were trying to keep the reference low key, maybe to increase the odds of its acceptance

>>turble+(OP)
It's not specific to the UK: many developed countries are cracking down on Internet businesses. There's going to be an awful lot of regulation, and it will be incompatible between different countries. The one-model-fits-the-whole-world style of business is over: you're going to be confined to national borders again.

The opinion polls are clear: the normies want this.

>>lentil+R3
Why should they do anything when they can push the burden of compliance onto you?

>>cjs_ac+l9
> The opinion polls are clear: the normies want this.

Giving normies the vote was a mistake.

>>dwood_+56
https://http.cat/451

>>BeFlat+Mc
So only snobby elitists get to vote?

>>cjs_ac+l9
Where do you get your conclusion from?

>>satell+0m
If you mean the opinion polls, I don't have any to hand, but there have been a few articles submitted to /r/ukpolitics since the Online Safety Act took effect detailing opinion polls showing that the UK Government's regulation of internet content has been well-received by the wider public (although the userbase of that subreddit has vociferously disagreed).

>>turble+(OP)
So GDPR, which protects people from companies abusing personal data (which this case is about, not the online safety act) should be repealed?

(no, its not the cookie law either.)

>>Kaiser+MC1
No because GDPR is better implemented and there are clear and reasonable guidelines to follow. This is just clueless policy makers fucking around.

>>physic+E5
They don't want (correctly) unfavorable comparisons to China's "Great Firewall" made, which most Western governments have lambasted in the past, so there's a PR/Politics side of it too.

>>cjs_ac+Um
You are probably talking about the YouGov poll. The poll asked a clearly leading question IMO.

You can get any result you want by asking leading questions on polling. This was of course satirised by Yes Minister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

I can counter any of the iffy polls by simple point to the official online petitions service. There were a huge number of signatures to revoke OSA and two million signatures to abolish the plans for the Digital ID. While the Digital ID is technically a separate issue, many of the same privacy concerns are present.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903?pubDate=2025...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

The number of people that signed these petitions is far more representative than any polling.

On top of that, recently I've seen reportrs of both the Liberal Democrats and Reform (the two largest parties after the main two) recongising the OSA as unpopular and are likely to suggest reforming/removing it.

On top of that. The labour government and the conservative government that proceeded it which created the OSA were/are both deeply unpopular.

So any notion that there is a popular mandate for this is nonsense.

>>cudgy+jj
yeah damn, i guess that's it.

That's the dichotomy. You're either an elitist snobs or a normies. No nuance, no qualification.

>>hactua+wU1
I know; we should make being able to vote contingent on understanding the word "nuance". There; now you have the best of both worlds ;)

>>dwood_+56
Should it be a client error "vote differently" or a server error "this server is not licking the boot" ;)

>>an0mal+29
Same rule applies to any use of 42.

>>BeFlat+Mc
Allowing the media to be controlled by government interests, which the normies follow blindly as thinking is hard, was the bigger mistake.

Opinion polls are bullshit and just an indicator of propaganda effectiveness.

>>nicksl+A4
It’s hilarious that imgur is still returning JSON errors even when connecting with a browser. I guess their dev team have never heard of the Accept header.

(My residential IP is blacklisted for some reason and I always get a JSON error message from them)

>>hactua+wU1
Calling people “normies” is elitist and snobish, so there is a dichotomy.

>>sph+Fx2
I left this reply on a sibling thread.

>>45432347

The often cited YouGov polling, I think sampled a few thousand people. There are almost 2.5 million signatures on petitions between the OSA and Digital ID.

>>agedcl+qT1
The Bristol young lib dems oppose it, but the parliamentary party doesn't think it goes far enough. The Bristol lot are great, I talked to them about it, but they're unlikely to change things on the national level.

>>BeFlat+Mc
Found Moldbug's alt

>>Alex-P+BW3
That is unfortunate to hear. I don't really care for any of the political parties in the UK and tell them exactly what I think of them when they knock on my door.

I wouldn't trust them in young LibDems in Bristol either. Doesn't matter if they seem nice or not. Lots of young politicians have nice ideas and over time they either end up as bad as the ones they are replacing, they are forced out or leave of their own accord and then complain about it on a podcast.

>>j_maff+eE1
The ICO are there it enforce GDPR, and other data protections.

They are a quango, rather than policy makers

Again they are not OFCOM, and they didn't make OSA, thats very much down to the previous tory government