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1. cjs_ac+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-09-30 14:07:32
It's not specific to the UK: many developed countries are cracking down on Internet businesses. There's going to be an awful lot of regulation, and it will be incompatible between different countries. The one-model-fits-the-whole-world style of business is over: you're going to be confined to national borders again.

The opinion polls are clear: the normies want this.

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2. BeFlat+r3[view] [source] 2025-09-30 14:23:47
>>cjs_ac+(OP)
> The opinion polls are clear: the normies want this.

Giving normies the vote was a mistake.

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3. cudgy+Y9[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-30 14:55:46
>>BeFlat+r3
So only snobby elitists get to vote?
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4. satell+Fc[view] [source] 2025-09-30 15:04:43
>>cjs_ac+(OP)
Where do you get your conclusion from?
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5. cjs_ac+zd[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-30 15:08:47
>>satell+Fc
If you mean the opinion polls, I don't have any to hand, but there have been a few articles submitted to /r/ukpolitics since the Online Safety Act took effect detailing opinion polls showing that the UK Government's regulation of internet content has been well-received by the wider public (although the userbase of that subreddit has vociferously disagreed).
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6. agedcl+5K1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-30 23:04:06
>>cjs_ac+zd
You are probably talking about the YouGov poll. The poll asked a clearly leading question IMO.

You can get any result you want by asking leading questions on polling. This was of course satirised by Yes Minister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

I can counter any of the iffy polls by simple point to the official online petitions service. There were a huge number of signatures to revoke OSA and two million signatures to abolish the plans for the Digital ID. While the Digital ID is technically a separate issue, many of the same privacy concerns are present.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903?pubDate=2025...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

The number of people that signed these petitions is far more representative than any polling.

On top of that, recently I've seen reportrs of both the Liberal Democrats and Reform (the two largest parties after the main two) recongising the OSA as unpopular and are likely to suggest reforming/removing it.

On top of that. The labour government and the conservative government that proceeded it which created the OSA were/are both deeply unpopular.

So any notion that there is a popular mandate for this is nonsense.

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7. hactua+bL1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-30 23:11:33
>>cudgy+Y9
yeah damn, i guess that's it.

That's the dichotomy. You're either an elitist snobs or a normies. No nuance, no qualification.

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8. widerw+2O1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-30 23:32:12
>>hactua+bL1
I know; we should make being able to vote contingent on understanding the word "nuance". There; now you have the best of both worlds ;)
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9. sph+ko2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-01 06:17:35
>>BeFlat+r3
Allowing the media to be controlled by government interests, which the normies follow blindly as thinking is hard, was the bigger mistake.

Opinion polls are bullshit and just an indicator of propaganda effectiveness.

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10. cudgy+ID2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-01 09:17:26
>>hactua+bL1
Calling people “normies” is elitist and snobish, so there is a dichotomy.
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11. agedcl+wK2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-01 10:39:23
>>sph+ko2
I left this reply on a sibling thread.

>>45432347

The often cited YouGov polling, I think sampled a few thousand people. There are almost 2.5 million signatures on petitions between the OSA and Digital ID.

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12. Alex-P+gN3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-01 17:10:27
>>agedcl+5K1
The Bristol young lib dems oppose it, but the parliamentary party doesn't think it goes far enough. The Bristol lot are great, I talked to them about it, but they're unlikely to change things on the national level.
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13. lizard+nz4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-01 20:41:17
>>BeFlat+r3
Found Moldbug's alt
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14. agedcl+CT4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-01 22:41:29
>>Alex-P+gN3
That is unfortunate to hear. I don't really care for any of the political parties in the UK and tell them exactly what I think of them when they knock on my door.

I wouldn't trust them in young LibDems in Bristol either. Doesn't matter if they seem nice or not. Lots of young politicians have nice ideas and over time they either end up as bad as the ones they are replacing, they are forced out or leave of their own accord and then complain about it on a podcast.

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