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1. smt88+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-09-16 13:20:00
> Clearly some people do like the terms of employment, otherwise they wouldn't work there.

This is a deeply naive understanding of employment.

Almost no one has a huge array of job opportunities, and they can select the one they want based on company culture.

Most people have one viable job offer at a time, and they have to work hard for it. This is even more true in entertainment fields. Many people in entertainment feel lucky to be a paid employee at all, and they can't choose between a job that requires all-nighters and one that doesn't.

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2. javier+z9[view] [source] 2024-09-16 14:21:00
>>smt88+(OP)
This is not a foxcon factory, this is the most famous and productive Youtube production company. People here work incredibly hard IN ORDER TO get this particular job, seeking it out specifically.

> Many people in entertainment feel lucky to be a paid employee at all

And this is BY CHOICE.

I fundamentally disagree with your positioning.

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3. nother+we1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-16 20:33:33
>>javier+z9
Yeah people will do the job for free basically. I don’t think you could have the same culture if your business was cleaning port-a-pottys.
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4. smt88+uv1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-16 22:08:08
>>nother+we1
We know this isn't true because of the necessity of unions. Mining coal and many other trades are a lot worse than cleaning toilets, and people still had to do them nearly for free.
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5. nother+dW1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-17 01:55:50
>>smt88+uv1
Well that’s because the alternative is starvation
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6. Wolfen+gs2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-17 07:26:36
>>smt88+uv1
Unions are no longer necessary.

That's not a value judgement on my part, just a conclusion from decades of declining union membership, with no correlating uptick in starvation or massive reduction in wages.

(You may argue for wage stagnation, and you may attribute that to declining unionism, but that is not a collapse in wages!)

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7. javier+LQ3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-09-17 17:53:50
>>smt88+uv1
While I do see the value in unions in some settings, this is not a job of necessity. This is a job for people that wish to self actualize and not settle for anything less than their dream job. Wouldn't creating a union for Mr. Beast employees is akin to saying something like "I want to have my dream job but I want it to be easy"? I don't think that the analogy to mining coal holds.
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