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1. xbmcus+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-21 03:46:03
The more I find out about Altman the more I agree with the previous board about removing him. The guy just feels sleazy to me. Though he is doing what I want and that is not giving a fuck about artificial monopolies granted by government ie copyright
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2. PostOn+P[view] [source] 2024-05-21 03:52:51
>>xbmcus+(OP)
The man is literally lobbying congress to obtain an artificial monopoly on AI in the name of "safety".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO0J2Yw7usM

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3. titano+a1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 03:55:36
>>PostOn+P
It would be helpful if you linked to something more specific (even a timestamp). I’m not going to watch this nearly 3-hour video to decide whether it supports your statement or not.
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4. wrapti+S1[view] [source] 2024-05-21 04:04:22
>>xbmcus+(OP)
The board reinstating Altman was what broke the camels back to me. It showed that the board is completely powerless and that Altman is simply a liar.
5. oblio+T3[view] [source] 2024-05-21 04:25:42
>>xbmcus+(OP)
You're sort of funny. He's ignoring the existing artificial monopolies just to make money, when it suits him.

He's using trade secrets, copyright, patents, NDAs liberally.

This is not a principled stand, just opportunism.

6. insane+gc[view] [source] 2024-05-21 05:51:49
>>xbmcus+(OP)
Actually it’s the copyright that is supposed to prevent a monopoly arising in the form of an OpenAI, or Google News back in the day.
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7. xbmcus+rf[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 06:29:10
>>insane+gc
Copyright was supposed to protect a small inventor or maker for a short period of time. But as those small makers became corporations and they lobbied for and were able to keep increasing the copyright periods from a few years to decades after the death of the individual the actual essence of the reason for copyright is gone. I am of the opinion that copyright apart from a fixed term should also have a form of value tax. So if the government is allowing you to have a monopoly on something you should pay a yearly tax on its valuation. And if it is not worth it to pay the copyright yearly tax to keep the copyright then the work is released to the commons.
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8. theyin+qx[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 09:14:18
>>titano+a1
If you want to discover truths, 3 hours research seems like a good deal. Anyways, I got you covered. Altman has had a plan for this from the get go: https://www.techemails.com/p/sam-altman-emails-elon-musk
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9. insane+K81[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 13:29:11
>>xbmcus+rf
without copyright you have Google News sucking up all news organization content and robbing them of revenue (which is why news orgs sued and most went behind paywalls). Now OpenAI is doing the same thing to all content creators. Copyright law is the only thing protecting content creators or giving them any leverage at all. Copyright terms might be too long (we can debate that) but getting rid of it altogether would be the greater evil.
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10. rideon+qf1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 14:05:17
>>xbmcus+rf
You seem to be talking about patents.
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11. SahAss+mQ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 16:59:51
>>theyin+qx
If you make a claim, link a source (but not what part of the source that actually backs your claim) then when asked which part of the source you just link another source that does not explicitly say what you initially said it makes your argument look weak.

Link and quote to the parts that back your claim and if it is not clear how it backs your claim say what your interpretation is.

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12. titano+H12[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 18:01:00
>>theyin+qx
What's the quote from this that indicates he is trying to "obtain an artificial monopoly on AI"?
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13. theyin+qS3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-22 08:41:28
>>titano+H12
"On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Sam Altman wrote:" [...] "5) I think the right plan with the regulation letter is to wait for this to get going and then I can just release it with a message like "now that we are doing this, l've been thinking a lot about what sort of constraints the world needs for safefy.""
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14. insane+wA8[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-23 16:41:44
>>insane+gc
Woah, I didn't realize HN harbored this much anti-copyright sentiment.
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