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1. infect+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-01-29 13:14:35
No, EVs do not damage roads. Its not famously proportional, there is a cut off and consumer vehicles, including EVs, do not damage roadways. Large semi trucks do.

Not sure how you calculate 40% but that sounds wildly off, unless you are cherry picking and comparing a Rav 4 to that wildly heavy Hummer.

Lets take a real comparison though, Model Y at the top end is 4400lbs, a Rav4 at the top end is 3600lbs. Thats a 22% increase, heavier yes but not 40%.

Edit: Here is one source to show why EVs are not tearing up the road. https://twitter.com/ajisuzu1/status/1681123111364620294?s=46

My TLDR is there is essentially a cutoff where the weight matters. Going from 3800lbs to 4400lbs is not whats causing damage, its the 60,000lb loaded semi (and I think 80k is actually the max weight cutoff.

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2. toxik+q[view] [source] 2024-01-29 13:17:00
>>infect+(OP)
The car I drive weighs about 1300 kg, the Tesla Model X is about 2400 kg. I was being conservative with 40%.

Edit: turns out my car weighs even less.

Edit2: asked Google for most common, seems Tesla Model S at around 2100 kg.

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3. infect+41[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 13:21:44
>>toxik+q
Thats my point, you created an example to match your narrative. Same if you were to compare your car against a Ford F-150, its not a like for like comparison.

Rav 4 - Model Y is a good comparison to capture the extremes. Lexus Rx 350 is 4200lbs for their base trims.

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4. toxik+p1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 13:24:07
>>infect+41
People aren't picking between a Ford F-150 or a Tesla where I live, they pick between a normal ICE 5-seater or a Tesla. It's not cherry-picked, it is me-picked, a sample of 1 but a sample nonetheless. You OTOH have fabricated a choice that makes it seem reasonable. A truck is a work vehicle, a Tesla is personal transportation. The cyber truck is the like-for-like with a F-150, or at least it is designed to be.
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5. infect+w2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 13:30:04
>>toxik+p1
Sorry you are, I am the one providing real world examples, you are the one saying they weight 40% more. Perhaps there is an equivalent car in your market where you could say its a like for like comparison and it is indeed 40% more but from what I can tell its usually around 20-25%.

Toyota Camry, 3300lbs. Model 3, 4000lbs. 20%

If you want to provide a like for like example go for it. But it has to be a like for like, not a Toyota Yaris hatchback vs a Model Y.

Not sure why you are clarifying what a like for like comparison is. I am making the point that you have a cherry picked 40% example, without backing up the models and I am giving you like for like comparisons where its 20%.

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6. infect+D3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 13:36:49
>>toxik+q
So many edits. Tell us what your car is then? You keep picking different cars.

Model x 5400lbs, BMW x5 4800lbs. 12%

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7. r00fus+0I[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-01-29 16:49:40
>>toxik+q
When you cherrypick your comparison options, you can come up with some crazy statistics. What vehicle do you drive, and would you honestly compare it with a Model X (a large SUV)?
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