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I would not be surprised if tires wear faster on a vehicle that weighs ~40% more. Another thing to consider is road damage, which is famously proportional to the weight to the power of four. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law

>>toxik+(OP)
They do wear faster on EVs but sub 10k miles is definitely not typical. This article is definitely written to grab attention with that 7k figure in the headline and then immediately starts walking that back.

>>jmuguy+d
Sure, clickbaiting is just the world we live in. On the other hand, dismissing this as astroturfing is also a bit un-nuanced.

>>toxik+(OP)
No, EVs do not damage roads. Its not famously proportional, there is a cut off and consumer vehicles, including EVs, do not damage roadways. Large semi trucks do.

Not sure how you calculate 40% but that sounds wildly off, unless you are cherry picking and comparing a Rav 4 to that wildly heavy Hummer.

Lets take a real comparison though, Model Y at the top end is 4400lbs, a Rav4 at the top end is 3600lbs. Thats a 22% increase, heavier yes but not 40%.

Edit: Here is one source to show why EVs are not tearing up the road. https://twitter.com/ajisuzu1/status/1681123111364620294?s=46

My TLDR is there is essentially a cutoff where the weight matters. Going from 3800lbs to 4400lbs is not whats causing damage, its the 60,000lb loaded semi (and I think 80k is actually the max weight cutoff.

>>toxik+(OP)
A Tesla Model 3 is 0-15% heavier than a BMW 3 Series. A Ford Lightning is 10-20% heavier than a gasoline SuperCrew. EV's are not 40% heavier.

>>infect+Q
The car I drive weighs about 1300 kg, the Tesla Model X is about 2400 kg. I was being conservative with 40%.

Edit: turns out my car weighs even less.

Edit2: asked Google for most common, seems Tesla Model S at around 2100 kg.

>>toxik+g1
Thats my point, you created an example to match your narrative. Same if you were to compare your car against a Ford F-150, its not a like for like comparison.

Rav 4 - Model Y is a good comparison to capture the extremes. Lexus Rx 350 is 4200lbs for their base trims.

>>infect+U1
People aren't picking between a Ford F-150 or a Tesla where I live, they pick between a normal ICE 5-seater or a Tesla. It's not cherry-picked, it is me-picked, a sample of 1 but a sample nonetheless. You OTOH have fabricated a choice that makes it seem reasonable. A truck is a work vehicle, a Tesla is personal transportation. The cyber truck is the like-for-like with a F-150, or at least it is designed to be.

>>toxik+f2
Sorry you are, I am the one providing real world examples, you are the one saying they weight 40% more. Perhaps there is an equivalent car in your market where you could say its a like for like comparison and it is indeed 40% more but from what I can tell its usually around 20-25%.

Toyota Camry, 3300lbs. Model 3, 4000lbs. 20%

If you want to provide a like for like example go for it. But it has to be a like for like, not a Toyota Yaris hatchback vs a Model Y.

Not sure why you are clarifying what a like for like comparison is. I am making the point that you have a cherry picked 40% example, without backing up the models and I am giving you like for like comparisons where its 20%.

>>toxik+g1
So many edits. Tell us what your car is then? You keep picking different cars.

Model x 5400lbs, BMW x5 4800lbs. 12%

>>bryanl+U
Glad to see at least one other person agreeing, I got the doom and gloomer downvotes.

>>infect+s7
I think it may simply be a US vs European thing, it really surprises me the modern ICE cars are so heavy. I guess it's because of SUVization.

>>toxik+(OP)
Where did you get 40%? The EV version of my car (Ford Focus) is 10-20% more than a typical Ford Focus (depending on trim).

>>toxik+g1
When you cherrypick your comparison options, you can come up with some crazy statistics. What vehicle do you drive, and would you honestly compare it with a Model X (a large SUV)?