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"Standards of living" are not some kind of homogeneous global state.

The true hard pill to swallow is that YOUR (and a few others') standard of living is unsustainable.

>>jdthed+(OP)
The majority of Earth's population would like to have that standard of living and strives for it.

>>layer8+c3
There is a difference between striving for basic amenities like clean water, healthy food etc, and the luxury of ordering vanities off Amazon every other day..

Not everyone desires the latter, yet it appears to be the much more environmentally impactful one at least at scale..

>>jdthed+x4
I would argue that the majority of people do want conveniences like the latter example you give. The "American Dream", if you will.

>>jdthed+(OP)
my standard of living is very sustainable. i don't drive, i don't eat meat, i rarely eat dairy, my electricity is 100% renewably sourced, i recycle diligently, i heat my home to the absolute bare mininum temperature required to be liveable and rely on wearing extra layers for warmth, i don't spend hours using power-hungry entertainment devices, i've been wearing the same shoes and clothes for ~4-5 years and i only replace things when they completely break, or if replacing it allows me to use less energy or be less wasteful in the future. it's not hard.

some of the "innocent poor countries" you're talking about are the worst offenders for deforestation, pollution, and other habitat destruction. get off of your high horse, we are all responsible for the state of the planet we live on.

>>yungpo+7d
The point wasn't about you specifically, just about the average Western/1st World citizen.

> some of the "innocent poor countries" you're talking about are the worst offenders for deforestation, pollution, and other habitat destruction. get off of your high horse, we are all responsible for the state of the planet we live on.

For their own sake? Or is it, among others, Western offshore companies who partake in what you blame those darn third worlders for? It's a global economy.

Think of coffee for example. Pretty sure we consume orders of magnitude more of it in the West than the rest of the World. Yet, the coffee bean plantations aren't exactly at our doors- Instead they replace forests in Guatemala, Columbia, Indonesia, etc.