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1. 127361+ox[view] [source] 2024-01-27 19:42:36
>>onnnon+(OP)
It's taboo to say this, but people worldwide have had far too many children, and I believe that overpopulation is the root of the sustainability crisis, including climate change and pollution.

And that taboo is probably rooted in evolutionary psychology, people have a genetically driven tendency to criticize those who advocate having less children? So could there be an instinctual drive behind it?

https://www.flashpack.com/solo/relationships/dont-want-kids-...

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/childfree-by-choice

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2. yungpo+DK1[view] [source] 2024-01-28 09:00:14
>>127361+ox
i don't think overpopulation is the problem, but maybe it's a symptom. the problem is we've forced our way up to an unrealistically high standard of living which is completely unsustainable, and now we're trapped in an inescapable death spiral because nobody wants to go back.

people aren't willing to stop paying for conveniences because they're cheaply available, corporations aren't willing to stop selling them because there's a demand for it and money to be made, and governments aren't willing to force anybody's hand because the people and corporations will both force them out of power if they try.

there is absolutely no chance of breaking out of it other than giving up on democracy, but that will only happen when modern society collapses entirely, which will be far too late to prevent unimaginable suffering on a massive scale.

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3. jdthed+yX1[view] [source] 2024-01-28 11:15:13
>>yungpo+DK1
"Standards of living" are not some kind of homogeneous global state.

The true hard pill to swallow is that YOUR (and a few others') standard of living is unsustainable.

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4. layer8+K02[view] [source] 2024-01-28 11:45:29
>>jdthed+yX1
The majority of Earth's population would like to have that standard of living and strives for it.
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5. jdthed+522[view] [source] 2024-01-28 11:57:48
>>layer8+K02
There is a difference between striving for basic amenities like clean water, healthy food etc, and the luxury of ordering vanities off Amazon every other day..

Not everyone desires the latter, yet it appears to be the much more environmentally impactful one at least at scale..

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6. layer8+p72[view] [source] 2024-01-28 12:46:12
>>jdthed+522
I would argue that the majority of people do want conveniences like the latter example you give. The "American Dream", if you will.
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