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Has the author ever been to The Netherlands. I wouldn’t consider that climate “mild”

>>Nevin1+(OP)
Have you ever been to anywhere in North America at the same latitude as Amsterdam? Summer gets above 30 C and winter gets below -10 C, with frequent extreme weather events like thunderstorms, wildfires, "nor'easter" blizzards, even hurricanes once every few decades. European weather at the same latitude is comparatively much more moderate.

>>Nevin1+(OP)
NL is quite mild no? It rarely goes down to -10C or so.

>>Nevin1+(OP)
It's my first winter here but it's extremely mild I'd say.

>>Nevin1+(OP)
What's your yardstick? I'd say the Netherlands is pretty mild compared to a lot of places.

Snowfall is fairly uncommon and the average is maybe 10-inches a year in Amsterdam. Summers are fairly moderate.

So, yes, I would say it had a mild climate compared to most places. If you're looking at Mediterranean climates, there are very few of those.

>>CalRob+S1
And this winter was very rainy and cold compared to average.

>>Nevin1+(OP)
It absolutely is a mild climate, when compared to other continents. Netherlands is located roughly between the latitudes of Calgary and Edmonton.

>>Nevin1+(OP)
North Americans are used to more extreme climates... by their standards The Netherlands is very mild.

>>Nevin1+(OP)
There isn't any milder climate. Both summers and winters can be 10C and rain and wind

>>boc+f3
It's one reason why parts of California are so attractive to a lot of people. By their lights, no place else in the US (or Canada) has an acceptable climate year-round.

>>ghaff+H4
Also ready access to variance in temperatures. Its possible to surf and ski in one day with a brief stop in the mojave desert in between.

>>kjkjad+28
Whatever issues I have with California, the climate and nature overall are hard to beat relative to just about anywhere on the planet.

>>kjkjad+28
You can do the same thing in Oregon, and you can do it 365 days out of the year (if you ski at Timberline). And there is no desert in between.

>>bgnn+f2
Historically would it not have been colder given how rarely canals freeze now?

>>ghaff+J9
Not sure what "anywheres" are you including in your comparison but when it comes to variety geographical extension matters. California is larger than Japan or New Zealand (it's also more compact though).

>>Nevin1+(OP)
You have to compare the same latitudes. For example New York and Madrid are roughly equal and New York has clearly the much harsher weather.

>>nerdpo+o1
Is this valid also for places in US directly next to oceans? IMHO ocean shores are pretty mild in places all over the world in those lattitudes I've visited.

We also have harsh dry continental weather in Europe, you just have to move a bit more east, Russia starts to have its meteorological say.

Ie my own Slovakia has generally much lower humidity compared to say Switzerland or France, summers and winters and everything in between. Younger back home I've skied in -30C, and also experienced above 30 regularly during summers.

This is coming from decade and a half spending here in the western Europe. Coming home say on Christmas is always quite a shock for my breathing aparatus, more humidity simplifies breathing and infections.

>>saiya-+vs
The US Eastern coast has a generally more extreme climate than the European west coast. The prevailing wind patterns are west to east so the harsh continental air is blown over the US East coast and the relatively warmer Atlantic air is blown over Europe.

The US west coast is mild near the ocean, but quickly hits mountains and the Eastern side of those mountains has a much more extreme climate. Seattle has a climate not too different than London and much more mild than Boston.

>>nerdpo+o1
"9 meses de invierno y 3 de infierno" (9 months of winter and 3 of hell) - an old saying from my old city in Mainland Spain. -5C in winter, 40C in summer. Also thunderstorms, golf-ball sized hailstorms, prolongued droughs and quite a few wildfires.

Is that extreme enough by your standards?

>>irrati+6h
Bring a wet suit for the surfing.