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>>PaulHo+(OP)
Has the author ever been to The Netherlands. I wouldn’t consider that climate “mild”

>>Nevin1+Vq
North Americans are used to more extreme climates... by their standards The Netherlands is very mild.

>>boc+au
It's one reason why parts of California are so attractive to a lot of people. By their lights, no place else in the US (or Canada) has an acceptable climate year-round.

>>ghaff+Cv
Also ready access to variance in temperatures. Its possible to surf and ski in one day with a brief stop in the mojave desert in between.

>>kjkjad+Xy
Whatever issues I have with California, the climate and nature overall are hard to beat relative to just about anywhere on the planet.