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>>PaulHo+(OP)
Has the author ever been to The Netherlands. I wouldn’t consider that climate “mild”

>>Nevin1+Vq
North Americans are used to more extreme climates... by their standards The Netherlands is very mild.

>>boc+au
It's one reason why parts of California are so attractive to a lot of people. By their lights, no place else in the US (or Canada) has an acceptable climate year-round.

>>ghaff+Cv
Also ready access to variance in temperatures. Its possible to surf and ski in one day with a brief stop in the mojave desert in between.

>>kjkjad+Xy
You can do the same thing in Oregon, and you can do it 365 days out of the year (if you ski at Timberline). And there is no desert in between.

>>irrati+1I
Bring a wet suit for the surfing.