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1. kranke+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:05:19
Is there any way he can even stay if Altman returns? Seems like one of them is out and making their own AI venture soon.
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2. cft+F[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:08:28
>>kranke+(OP)
If Steve can make him stay and remain productive, he's a real business genius
3. romanh+W[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:09:45
>>kranke+(OP)
He could possibly stay in a pure Chief Scientist role while abdicating his board seat. But if I were a CEO, I'd have a hard time trusting a C-level role to someone whose vision is diametrically opposed to my own.
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4. DebtDe+62[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:16:05
>>kranke+(OP)
Make him the same offer he made Brockman - you can stay on as an employee but you're off the board.
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5. buggle+H6[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:38:30
>>kranke+(OP)
He’d probably be better off going to Meta or HuggingFace and working on getting open source as close to OpenAI’s offerings as possible. I expect that real innovation (vs. commercialization) is now fully dead at OpenAI, with them instead focusing on ROÍ for Microsoft.
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6. bossyT+fa[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 21:54:16
>>romanh+W
He won't. In a company, you want all employees to share the same vision. Ylia and Altman clearly don't. There is no point pretending
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7. letmev+Ec[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 22:05:40
>>buggle+H6
Ilya is not a champion of open source: "We were wrong. Flat out, we were wrong. If you believe, as we do, that at some point, AI — AGI — is going to be extremely, unbelievably potent, then it just does not make sense to open-source. It is a bad idea... I fully expect that in a few years it’s going to be completely obvious to everyone that open-sourcing AI is just not wise."

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/15/23640180/openai-gpt-4-lau...

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8. imjons+td[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 22:09:37
>>buggle+H6
He's opposed to making powerful models open source, unfortunately.
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9. draken+hx[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-19 23:58:41
>>letmev+Ec
He said in an interview 2 weeks ago that below a certain capability threshold it is beneficial and good to open source models —- but once you cross that threshold it is a bad idea.

The example he gave is a model that could independently do science.

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10. kyle_g+fG[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-20 00:50:44
>>DebtDe+62
That will keep him employed for the three nanoseconds until he gets an offer from a competitor.
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