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1. d_sem+43[view] [source] 2023-11-19 20:48:31
>>himara+(OP)
It's worth knowing the specific reasons why the board fired Sam before assessing the value of this news. Too much rumor and not enough evidence.
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2. brooks+z4[view] [source] 2023-11-19 20:55:43
>>d_sem+43
It seems clear that there weren’t specific reasons, just a kind of final straw in the product announcements that made the board realize how far from the original mission the company had drifted.

Turning it into an emergency and surprise coup with innuendo of wrongdoing looks to have been a huge mistake, and may result in total loss of control where a more measured course correction could have succeeded.

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3. itchy_+p6[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:03:07
>>brooks+z4
Ilya is the stereotypical genius mind that is extremely passionate yet disconnected from the real world. He got way too worked up about abstract issues, failed to see the bigger picture and had a meltdown that other board members took seriously because he's a cofounder. He is instrumental in the research but he shouldn't be running the business.
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4. kranke+Z6[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:05:19
>>itchy_+p6
Is there any way he can even stay if Altman returns? Seems like one of them is out and making their own AI venture soon.
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5. buggle+Gd[view] [source] 2023-11-19 21:38:30
>>kranke+Z6
He’d probably be better off going to Meta or HuggingFace and working on getting open source as close to OpenAI’s offerings as possible. I expect that real innovation (vs. commercialization) is now fully dead at OpenAI, with them instead focusing on ROÍ for Microsoft.
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6. letmev+Dj[view] [source] 2023-11-19 22:05:40
>>buggle+Gd
Ilya is not a champion of open source: "We were wrong. Flat out, we were wrong. If you believe, as we do, that at some point, AI — AGI — is going to be extremely, unbelievably potent, then it just does not make sense to open-source. It is a bad idea... I fully expect that in a few years it’s going to be completely obvious to everyone that open-sourcing AI is just not wise."

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/15/23640180/openai-gpt-4-lau...

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7. draken+gE[view] [source] 2023-11-19 23:58:41
>>letmev+Dj
He said in an interview 2 weeks ago that below a certain capability threshold it is beneficial and good to open source models —- but once you cross that threshold it is a bad idea.

The example he gave is a model that could independently do science.

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