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1. pipeli+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-08-02 03:25:23
It’s almost like modern Mac users can’t play games well on their Arm based hardware…but hey let the Linux guys have another scintillating victory……Yotld!
replies(2): >>imbnwa+32 >>Gigach+0K
2. imbnwa+32[view] [source] 2023-08-02 03:48:58
>>pipeli+(OP)
Thank the gods Baldur's Gate 3 is native since Larian has tons of experience releasing games on Apple's desktop platform
3. Gigach+0K[view] [source] 2023-08-02 11:35:39
>>pipeli+(OP)
ARM isn't the issue. They run in the x86 emulator fine. I can't tell they aren't native. The problem is virtually no games support MacOS. ARM or x86. Anything that does seems to run really well.

I can play minecraft at 120hz for hours and hours on battery and it's a great experience.

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4. yomlic+oN[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 12:01:56
>>Gigach+0K
I don't use Mac myself but the impression I got was a lot of Mac back catalog games got flushed when 32-bit was deprecated.
replies(2): >>coldpi+o91 >>tl+bc1
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5. coldpi+o91[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 14:02:22
>>yomlic+oN
Yes. They also pissed off almost every developer by cutting off their legacy revenue stream. No one is going back to update an old 32-bit game to 64-bit. Apple burned a lot of bridges in the gaming community with that move, and other boneheaded stuff like their refusal to support Vulkan.
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6. tl+bc1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 14:16:44
>>yomlic+oN
Looking at my library, it's about half:

- Game used to be Mac playable, but isn't because of 32-bit

- Game doesn't have a Mac version at all

Valve's work on the Steam Deck shows they could fix both problems but why should they do free work for the world's richest corporation?

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7. paines+Tr1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 15:25:44
>>tl+bc1
Because they would sell more games in the end. I guess this is exactly what will happen: A Steam Runtime for 32bit x86 games bundeled with FexEmu for M1 and a 32 bit x86 runtime for macOS in general.
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8. LegitS+9G1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 16:24:23
>>paines+Tr1
I don't think so. The whole move to steamos started with the windows store and valves worry that a future windows wouldn't support third party games, or would somehow make them worse compared to windows store games. It turns out msft made a mess of their initiative but that was valves worry.

I don't think galve trusts apple to do anything different at all - apple maintains much more stringent control of their os and what software can be run on it, and also asks for platform fees.

Valve wants none of that. Apple will develop their own game support and it will be for an apple gaming platform that they'll take 30% for.

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9. LegitS+kG1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 16:25:03
>>coldpi+o91
I don't think so. Everyone is going to make a decision based on potential profits not grudges over 32 bit.
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10. BlueTe+7l3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 23:44:57
>>Gigach+0K
Let's also hope that outside of Macs Risc-V is going to be adopted soon, because neither Intel nor Ryzen (and Arm is even worse??) are acceptable options.
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