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1. izacus+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-01-24 15:25:18
There is no "Gecko" on Apple platforms because you keep defending monopolistic lockout. It's utterly bizarre to defend megacorporation by scaremongering with a browser that isn't allowed to exist.
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2. artifi+6l[view] [source] 2023-01-24 16:40:21
>>izacus+(OP)
If there is no "Gecko" on Apple platforms which engine does Firefox use on macOs?
3. sbuk+Vo[view] [source] 2023-01-24 16:53:48
>>izacus+(OP)
Funny, the gecko base web browser on my mac must be my imagination.
4. girvo+L92[view] [source] 2023-01-25 01:11:36
>>izacus+(OP)
The Firefox I've been running on my Mac for 15 years at this point must be a figment of my imagination.

Of course I would love to see Gecko running on iOS. I just don't like the possibility of Google's browser dominance become even stronger either. It's a hard one.

5. the_ot+r53[view] [source] 2023-01-25 10:15:30
>>izacus+(OP)
I use Firefox on macOS all day every day. It's definitely Gecko on an Apple platform. This monopoly you're talking about doesn't exist: it's two operating systems on two types of device.

I understand your frustration that you can't use the browser you want on the devices you want. That is annoying. However, *now* is the wrong time to go after Apple. Get more people using other browsers on other platforms first.

Wikipedia suggests this breakdown:

> As of November 2022, Android, an operating system using the Linux kernel, is the world's most-used operating system when judged by web use. It has 42% of the global market, followed by Windows with 30%, Apple iOS with 18%, macOS with 6%, then (desktop) Linux at 1.0% also using the Linux kernel.[1][2] These numbers do not include embedded devices or game consoles.

(from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste... )

Android and Windows make up 4x the number of iOS users on the web. When the % of Chrome users on those platforms goes down, and Firefox and others go up, to a level where any of them could temporarily steer the direction the HTML/W3C standards take, _that's_ the time to go after Apple. Until then, lean on the fence Apple are holding up for you (and getting Google to pay for).

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6. sbuk+d04[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-25 16:15:50
>>the_ot+r53
Great post! The thing with people that "keep defending monopolistic lockout" as the GP put it, is they can see the bigger picture here.
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