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1. jiggaw+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-01-30 01:52:36
Twitter is famous for limiting the length of texts, forcing people to boil down the message to its essence and leave nuance behind.

But this is Dan Luu's point exactly. When forced to communicate at scale -- such as public health directive messaging -- there's no choice. Nuance doesn't work, only the simplest, blunt messages "get through".

Fauci, like many others, were concerned about panic-buying of masks. It's not that they don't work at all, they obviously do, and Fauci knew this. However, they don't work anywhere near as effectively in the hands of the untrained public (chin straps! pulling masks aside to sneeze! INCREASED touching of the face to adjust masks!), so it's taking masks away from people that can use them effectively.

Option 1) Tell the full message, mention that masks do work to a degree.

Outcome 1) People panic buy, and the overall effect is to make the pandemic worse because health professionals can't get enough PPE.

Option 2) Straight up tell people not to buy masks.

Outcome 2) People shrug their shoulders, don't buy masks, and the overall outcome is better, especially for the overburdened health system.

Which would you choose?

Nuance -- resulting in dead doctors and nurses, crippling the health system OR the clear but inaccurate statement -- that saves the country?

This is why it cracks me up to see responses precisely like yours, foaming at the mouth in anger.

You're angry at people that did what you would have done, if sitting in their position and faced with the same choices.

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2. mandma+rb[view] [source] 2022-01-30 03:35:03
>>jiggaw+(OP)
You act like those were the only two options and outcomes. That's a failure of imagination at best, and a false dichotomy.

Some countries were able to issue effective mask wearing guidance - without lying to people, or causing mass mask hoarding. So let's not pretend that wasn't achievable.

Let's also not act like we tried other outcomes first; incentives to mask production, disincentives to mask hoarding, etc.

Multiple trusted organisations lied to Americans, not just for practical purposes but also for political and personal reasons. "Trust the science" now means, obey the science that we didn't censor / fail to investigate / lock behind data protection. It's really not justified, however thick you take people for, and however limited your imagination.

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3. jiggaw+3m[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-30 05:27:00
>>mandma+rb
> Multiple trusted organisations lied to Americans

What choice did they have? They were talking to Americans!

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4. rleigh+2A[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-30 09:03:48
>>jiggaw+3m
Lying to elicit a certain desired response is not acceptable, no matter the justification for it. It ultimately erodes trust in our institutions, and that trust is the fundamental basis for the functioning of our society.

Our institutions need to be both truthful, and also accountable. This means being able to freely debate the facts without censorship. And for the decisions and communications of our organisations and leaders to be examined, debated, and judged. We cannot have a society where people are knowingly and deliberately misinformed, and debate of the matters is suppressed. That's 1930s Germany levels of gaslighting and suppression. The West is supposed to be Free, and this is not free or democratic.

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