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1. wait_a+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-06-04 17:28:15
This needs to be upvoted to the top so that we get some answers as to why this well-known history is not searchable via such a major tech company’s search functionality. It’s the top result via Google, why is Bing so bad at this?
replies(2): >>michae+R5 >>Cobras+Ly
2. michae+R5[view] [source] 2021-06-04 17:53:33
>>wait_a+(OP)
To be fair a search of tank man on bing does have results including pictures. For some reason the same imagines that appear on the main search results page don't show up on the image results tab.
replies(3): >>virtue+Va >>ggggte+Ow >>JMTQp8+EM
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3. virtue+Va[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 18:11:40
>>michae+R5
I'm in the US searching for it and getting nothing for the image results. Why are the images specifically blocked?

I don't think there's anything fair about this. I don't like the idea of a US company censoring information from me in this way. Because now I'm really curious as to what else is being censored/flagged out.

replies(2): >>jaynet+qo >>michae+wG
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4. jaynet+qo[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 19:05:28
>>virtue+Va
Trying this now from Germany, same here. 0 results in the image tab. “Keine Ergebnisse für Tank man gefunden."
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5. ggggte+Ow[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 19:44:15
>>michae+R5
It's because the search query is blocked.

I think the more surprising thing is that it only effects the Image search results, and not the web search results.

I checked the Video results, and Videos also appear blocked.

It's possible that Image and Video search utilize the same word-filter list, and for some reason web-searches use a different list.

6. Cobras+Ly[view] [source] 2021-06-04 19:53:19
>>wait_a+(OP)
Google doesn't have a search engine in China, and Bing does have a search engine in China.
replies(2): >>y04nn+HH >>amai+JR1
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7. michae+wG[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 20:40:21
>>virtue+Va
If they were actually going to censor results wouldn't they censor the web results as well? What makes you think this isn't a technical issue.
replies(1): >>virtue+FQ
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8. y04nn+HH[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 20:49:20
>>Cobras+Ly
Should not Bing have a separate/dedicated search engine in China? Does Bing has to censure US/World results from a well know fact to be allowed to operate in China? Because I have some difficulties to understand why Bing is censuring such fact outside the Great Firewall of China.
replies(1): >>regnul+751
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9. JMTQp8+EM[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 21:20:48
>>michae+R5
It appears the avatar in the chip (using Material nomenclature here for the UI components) for suggested search result "Tank Man China" has the original image, but clicking on the chip takes you a page missing said image.
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10. virtue+FQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 21:48:46
>>michae+wG
You've got to be joking.

Blanking out image results for a specific search string is a technical issue? This goes a little bit beyond assuming incompetence.

replies(1): >>TchoBe+pZ
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11. TchoBe+pZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 22:54:39
>>virtue+FQ
I don't know, if they were trying to stop the spread of information on the massacre it would be weird to blank out images but not fudge search results.
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12. regnul+751[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-04 23:34:33
>>y04nn+HH
Or maybe not censure it at all? Maybe say "Thanks, but no thanks" to the CCP?
replies(1): >>midoBB+OJ1
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13. midoBB+OJ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-05 07:04:46
>>regnul+751
Then they would have to exit that market and I don't know about you but if I'm a shareholder in MSFT, losing on the 3rd biggest market in the world with massive growth potential doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
replies(1): >>jeroen+072
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14. amai+JR1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-05 08:50:47
>>Cobras+Ly
That is why Western companies should not be allowed to do business with dictatorships. It is not to sanction the regime. It is to save our own culture of freedom from being destroyed by business requirements enforced onto our companies by these regimes.
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15. jeroen+072[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-06-05 12:23:48
>>midoBB+OJ1
This is the crux of the problem, the desire for personal wealth overcoming the ethical qualms that come with supporting dictators.

I dare say that no ethical shareholder will fault Microsoft for making the decision to fight Chinse censorship. I also dare say that there are probably very few ethical shareholders in this world.

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