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1. daniel+(OP)[view] [source] 2011-04-03 22:24:52
I've generally found a strong correlation between forum quality and the difficulty of gaining admission. One of my favorite forums put me on a waiting list for three months before they let me post.

So I'd prefer the addition of some sort of barrier to entry. Either an invite system like the private file-stealing sites use, a sign-up fee like Metafilter uses, or a vetting process for potential members.

Ideally, I'd love to see Paul Graham take a couple hundred of the best users and start a new forum. After they had some time to establish the community, people like me could apply for membership, which would involve submitting a written case, and waiting a week for the existing members to vote on it.

*This was originally a reply to lionhearted, who deleted his perfectly reasonable post.

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2. jacque+b2[view] [source] 2011-04-03 23:07:06
>>daniel+(OP)
> I've generally found a strong correlation between forum quality and the difficulty of gaining admission.

There's a well-research phenomenon that people believe that a group is more valuable if it was harder for them to become a member. It pops up everywhere from YC to skull & bones to young men being ritually injured in the deserts of central Australia.

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3. daniel+D2[view] [source] [discussion] 2011-04-03 23:18:31
>>jacque+b2
This is true, but it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm incorrect in my assessment. Compare the average Metafilter comment to the average YouTube comment. You'd have a difficult time making the case that there wasn't a discernible difference in quality between the two.
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4. jacque+w3[view] [source] [discussion] 2011-04-03 23:36:21
>>daniel+D2
> This is true, but it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm incorrect in my assessment.

Right, but as the subject of a membership ritual I have to discount your assertion.

Sometimes membership rituals do increase value. But they increase perceived value regardless of what follows.

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5. daniel+S3[view] [source] [discussion] 2011-04-03 23:46:22
>>jacque+w3
Aren't you engaging in the genetic fallacy here though? Pointing out a possible origin of my belief does not mean that you have disproved the belief.
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6. jacque+x4[view] [source] [discussion] 2011-04-04 00:01:38
>>daniel+S3
As developed through this discussion, my point would be that we need an outsider's perspective on the quality of a community. Perhaps a "passer by".
7. crassh+1d[view] [source] 2011-04-04 03:00:17
>>daniel+(OP)
NuclearPhynance doesn't block entry, but displays the community rules next to your first 10 posts. They quickly ban "bad guys" and IP block sock puppets / hidemy#ss.

[PS you mean a strong _positive_ correlation, right? ;) ]

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