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> would require training and practice that simply isn’t available to cops

Generally agree apart from this - if cops don't have training to be expert (or at least above-average good) shooters, then that's a failure. We've read tons of articles about militarization of US police. If they have budget for armored vehicles, for sure they have budget for (very cheap but quality basic) 9mm ammunition for practice.

>>saiya-+(OP)
Exactly. They apply a double standard when they need it. They got so stubborn about it up until it got to this point. Now they will loose a lot of their perks. Good! Better learn from this

In Long Island a higher ranked cop would retire after 20 years with a pension of 500k, and in Long Island they really don’t do anything. While that, a new recruit in the Bronx would start at salary of 40k with poor training and lots of headaches. Seems like we need to reform the police!

Discussions about these things just started popping up on NPR and other sources. They brought it up on themselves.

>>saiya-+(OP)
There are good reasons for police to receive a lot more firearms training and practice than they do, but no amount of training will change the need for them to shoot to ‘kill’.

Even the best handgun shooters in the world are unlikely either to be reliably be able to shoot to incapacitate.

It just isn’t a capacity that handguns have in realistic use cases.

The primary reason police need more training with firearms is so that they become less afraid of them and more generally competent and confident.

That will give them more capacity to exercise better judgement in when they actually need to shoot.

Of course it depends a lot on the training and whether it is aimed at increasing or reducing their fear levels.