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1. chrisc+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-15 04:11:55
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-de... just under 1000 police involved shootings each year. Can't find the source, but of these only about 47 were un-armed and most of those involved protecting someone else from a physical attack.
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2. common+A2[view] [source] 2020-06-15 04:45:48
>>chrisc+(OP)
Those figures are for fatal police shootings, not for all police shootings. Police shootings and police brutality do not necessarily result in death.
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3. nl+8u[view] [source] 2020-06-15 09:49:48
>>chrisc+(OP)
> Can't find the source, but of these only about 47 were un-armed and most of those involved protecting someone else from a physical attack.

This is wrong.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed lists 1ists at least 104 unarmed black people alone killed by police in 2015.

I went though the first 20, and maybe 8 could have been accidents (one was hit by a car) or otherwise explained (2 pointed toy guns at police).

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4. buffer+Yu[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 09:57:15
>>common+A2
You keep avoiding the question. How many are unjustified?
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5. buffer+kv[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 10:00:12
>>nl+8u
First of all, you're pulling old data. Try last year.

But even then, half of the cases sound like accidents, out of 104. The remaining is pretty close to 47.

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6. nl+Rv[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 10:05:43
>>buffer+kv
I don't know where to get last years data in such detail.

There are plenty of sites that count the number of killings, but this is one of the few that looks for unarmed ones. If you are aware of better or more recent stats (for example the source of this 47 number) I'd love a link.

> half of the cases sound like accidents, out of 104. The remaining is pretty close to 47.

I find it mind-boggling that killing 52 unarmed people by accident is somehow the best case scenario here.

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7. boombo+CG[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 11:53:34
>>buffer+Yu
Ignoring the land mine that is defining "unjustified," why is somebody else obligated to answer your question?
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8. danShu+VY[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 14:11:39
>>buffer+Yu
You're looking at a giant list of videos that people think are unjustified. You can go through and weed out videos that you think don't belong there. You can even submit pull requests to more organized compilations to remove unsubstantiated claims.

Your use of "unjustified" is entirely subjective. I don't know what your specific threshold is for justified violence against peaceful protestors, and it's a waste of time to try and guess what that threshold is. It's a waste of time for us to filter the data, only for you to then point out two videos you disagree with and ask everyone to repeat the same work over and over again.

All of the raw data is available to you in a list format. If you think there are errors, then fork the repo, file a pull request, or create an issue. Make your own list that demonstrates your point.

https://github.com/2020PB/police-brutality/issues

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9. UncleM+w41[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 14:45:11
>>buffer+kv
Why the hell would it matter if they were accidents?
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10. chrisc+3I1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-15 17:36:25
>>nl+8u
Just pulling some of these randomly out, there's quite a few that are clearly not caused by the police: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/may/13/jail-inmate-di...

> Officers arrested the man for violating a domestic violence no contact order and unlawful possession of a firearm

> the man went into cardiac arrest during processing.

> Correction officers began resuscitation immediately, police said, and the man was transported to the hospital while he still had a pulse. He later died at the hospital.

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2015/07/10/Physical-...

> Ms. Harris declined to comment through an Allegheny County Jail Health Justice project spokeswoman, but she has said that her son took an anti-seizure medication twice daily and called her from the jail to ask for help getting health care workers there to give him the medication

> He died of acute peritonitis due to colon perforation, and the death was ruled natural.

> Our records indicate that within ten minutes of Mr. Smart’s arrival at medical intake, our staff ordered the medications he said he needed, and he received those medications as prescribed. During an emergency event later that evening, our records show that our staff administered additional treatment to Mr. Smart and that he responded to the medical care provided.

This is an extremely misleading website and not a reliable source.

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