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1. dtagam+4[view] [source] 2020-06-15 00:13:43
>>dtagam+(OP)
I know politics isn't the usual HN topic, but I think this goes beyond politics at this point. Until I saw this list, I had no idea how out of control this situation has gotten here.

I'm saddened for my country and hope that this can be a turning point for all of us.

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2. buffer+f7[view] [source] 2020-06-15 01:42:28
>>dtagam+4
Is it out of control though? The police has 700K members in the US. Millions of daily interactions with people of all kinds. All you could find is 400 cases from ALL the years. And I guess the claim is brutality wasn't justified in every single case. In reality there are not 400 cases on that list, and in many cases the violence was justified.

I'm not saying the police doesn't do wrong, they absolutely do. We have examples of rapes, unjustified murders and beatings, entrapment. They are extremely rare. I think last year the police in the US killed 9 unarmed black men and 21 unarmed white men.

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3. kingof+Da[view] [source] 2020-06-15 02:36:14
>>buffer+f7
> Is it out of control though? The police has 700K members in the US. Millions of daily interactions with people of all kinds. All you could find is 400 cases from ALL the years. And I guess the claim is brutality wasn't justified in every single case. In reality there are not 400 cases on that list, and in many cases the violence was justified.

400 ... where there are videos. We know that until a video emerges these get swept under the rug, so I'm willing to bet that there are a fair few more than 400 examples of police brutality.

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4. buffer+ob[view] [source] 2020-06-15 02:45:01
>>kingof+Da
I agree that there are more than 400, we know that just by the number of people getting shot.

Now, how many are unjustified? That's the important question.

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5. chrisc+1i[view] [source] 2020-06-15 04:11:55
>>buffer+ob
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-de... just under 1000 police involved shootings each year. Can't find the source, but of these only about 47 were un-armed and most of those involved protecting someone else from a physical attack.
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6. common+Bk[view] [source] 2020-06-15 04:45:48
>>chrisc+1i
Those figures are for fatal police shootings, not for all police shootings. Police shootings and police brutality do not necessarily result in death.
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7. buffer+ZM[view] [source] 2020-06-15 09:57:15
>>common+Bk
You keep avoiding the question. How many are unjustified?
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8. danShu+Wg1[view] [source] 2020-06-15 14:11:39
>>buffer+ZM
You're looking at a giant list of videos that people think are unjustified. You can go through and weed out videos that you think don't belong there. You can even submit pull requests to more organized compilations to remove unsubstantiated claims.

Your use of "unjustified" is entirely subjective. I don't know what your specific threshold is for justified violence against peaceful protestors, and it's a waste of time to try and guess what that threshold is. It's a waste of time for us to filter the data, only for you to then point out two videos you disagree with and ask everyone to repeat the same work over and over again.

All of the raw data is available to you in a list format. If you think there are errors, then fork the repo, file a pull request, or create an issue. Make your own list that demonstrates your point.

https://github.com/2020PB/police-brutality/issues

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