zlacker

FTA: "Unarmed Predator drones were first used within the United States in 2012, when the Department of Homeland Security flew one over the property of a cattle farmer named Rodney Brossart to surveil him, and to help end a 16-hour standoff between him and another rancher over a stolen-cattle dispute. The use was highly controversial at the time; since then, CBP has used drones hundreds of times, and has not kept very good records about their use."

That strikes me as a highly unexpected and odd situation to be the catalyst for "OK'ing" use within US.

>>dpflan+(OP)
Oh, interesting, here is the court case:

> https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/136371f4-aa38-476f-bd9a-...

On page 12:

"There was no improper use of an unmanned aerial vehicle. It appears to have had no bearing on these charges being contested here."

>>dpflan+(OP)
Exceptional first cases pave precedent for unexceptional normalization.

>>dpflan+(OP)
False; Katrina & US border patrol was what officially sparked the call to (publicly) use drones in the US.

CBP has used drones with FAA approval within the US since 2006; which does not included any use prior to 2006 which remains classified.

SOURCE: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115491642950528436

>>user98+H2
This is why I'm looking forward to ~1 year from now to see who is getting 'fact checked' on Twitter.

Only a fool would be evaluating the first case to judge whether the whole idea is valid.

>>billme+Ga
Odd question. The thing that I find odd about it is the jurisdiction of US border patrol here. Why would the government call them as opposed to, say, national guard? I am curious.

>>A4ET8a+Qy
Probably because US border patrol has aerial surveillance vehicles and lots of experience in their use, and the national guard likely does not

>>A4ET8a+Qy
Here’s a map of their jurisdiction:

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/05/who-lives-in-border-p...

>>Peteri+jB
They both have experience, US National Guard would require DoD approval to fly domestic missions.

>>A4ET8a+Qy
Because there's a suspension of civil liberties within X miles of a border, and the power can be exercised by the USBP.

(Edit: see map posted in a sibling comment. See position of Minneapolis on said map)

>>dmix+Jf
No one can see past their own noses it seems.

>>SV_Bub+uK
(edit: Few like) the idea of letting any bad people go, even if it eventually means taking in a lot of innocent people