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1. pagane+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-01-28 12:22:25
> Why not to look for a job at NGO, or get involved in a non-profit startup instead?

You're seriously asking why a lowly-paid Amazon employee doesn't look for a NGO or a non-profit startup job instead? No offence, but is this satire? It seems like a Silicon Valley episode to me.

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2. conanb+q5[view] [source] 2020-01-28 13:14:48
>>pagane+(OP)
If you are a lowly-paid employee, your focus should be on becoming a highly-paid employee, not in engaging fights with your allegedly only employer.
3. krn+T6[view] [source] 2020-01-28 13:27:26
>>pagane+(OP)
> No offence, but is this satire? It seems like a Silicon Valley episode to me.

As an EU citizen from a country with an average personal income of less than 1000€ / month, I don't see any problem with not working for a company that stands against what I firmly believe in. It doesn't necessarily have to be an NGO or a non-profit. If you care about climate change more than about anything else, get a job at TSLA.

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4. _-o-_+h9[view] [source] 2020-01-28 13:45:17
>>pagane+(OP)
Let me quote the article

> More than 340 tech workers at Amazon used the hashtag #AMZNSpeakOut in public statements that condemn the company for not taking sufficient action on the climate crisis.

I'm sure that tech workers at Amazon are compensated quite handsomely. And even if those protesters were low paid warehouse staff (unlikely, protesting climate change is something that only those very well off can afford) do you assume that NGO would pay even less?

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5. CalRob+F9[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-01-28 13:47:58
>>krn+T6
"As an EU citizen"

This does confer some benefits with respect to safety net, etc. Working for an NGO might mean your kid not getting adequate health care.

Also, I don't believe TSLA is in a position to hire everyone who might like to work there (and they're not perfect themselves considering Elon's opposition to public transport that actually works, like buses)

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6. krn+1b[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-01-28 13:58:04
>>CalRob+F9
> This does confer some benefits with respect to safety net, etc.

Sure, it does, but we are talking here about highly paid Amazon's tech employees, not about lowly paid warehouse workers:

> More than 340 tech workers at Amazon used the hashtag #AMZNSpeakOut in public statements that condemn the company for not taking sufficient action on the climate crisis.

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7. Solace+Ki[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-01-28 14:50:35
>>_-o-_+h9
"do you assume that NGO would pay even less?"

Yeah I do actually, often people pay NGOs to be able to work under an NGO.

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8. natch+dk[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-01-28 14:57:52
>>CalRob+F9
I don't think he's opposed to buses or public transport. That's ridiculous. You've taken his words out of context. That being said, there are huge advantages to cars, which is why most people use them. And buses too. It's not either or. It's more just one thing at a time, starting with whatever has the most impact when you take reality into account.
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9. throwa+Up[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-01-28 15:33:14
>>krn+T6
>As an EU citizen from a country

Does your country provide healthcare and/or housing while you are unemployed and looking for non-profit work based on your values? Or does you country also have 500,000 homeless and 44 million without health insurance?

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10. krn+Kx[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-01-28 16:20:22
>>throwa+Up
It's very different from the US, and that's probably the reason many of my comments were heavily downvoted in this thread.

In the EU, it's very hard to lose the job. It's even harder to lose healthcare benefits. Therefore, people have much less pressure and even somebody working at the Booking.com call center in Berlin can take half a year off to decide what he wants to do next.

However, "hundreds of workers" who "defy Amazon rules" to "protest company's climate failures" are not lowly paid warehouse employees. They are tech workers, who probably make 200-500k / year, and have plenty of options in their lives.

These protesters are far from becoming homeless overnight.

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