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1. throwa+J2[view] [source] 2020-01-28 10:19:05
>>perfun+(OP)
I know a guy who works at Amazon. The person who spammed the internal email list soliciting participants for this is no longer at the company.

Survey sent in the email: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZSJH2G3

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2. krn+Y4[view] [source] 2020-01-28 10:51:12
>>throwa+J2
> The person who spammed the internal email list soliciting participants for this is no longer at the company.

I could understand this from the AMZN shareholders point of view: as an employee of the company you are paid to defend private interests, not public interests.

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3. pagane+57[view] [source] 2020-01-28 11:11:37
>>krn+Y4
> as an employee of the company you are paid to defend private interests, not public interests

So all that "stakeholder capitalism" recent discussion was pure BS? [1]

[1] https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/investor-relations/larry...

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4. krn+Z8[view] [source] 2020-01-28 11:35:06
>>pagane+57
That should come from the top, not from the bottom of the company. It's not the responsibility of a lower level employee to define what his company stands for. Everyone is free to work for a company that matches his values.
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5. pagane+1a[view] [source] 2020-01-28 11:44:47
>>krn+Z8
> Everyone is free to work for a company that matches his values.

No, they are not. Maybe it is true for a select group of people (computer programmers, some lawyers, some medical professionals), but the vast majority of people are not "free to work" and choose any company that matches "their values". Which makes protests like this one even more important and noteworthy, as those people protesting are risking a lot more compared to the "privileged" professions I mentioned above.

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6. krn+kb[view] [source] 2020-01-28 11:59:43
>>pagane+1a
> Which makes protests like this one even more important and noteworthy, as those people protesting are risking a lot more compared to the "privileged" professions I mentioned above.

The profession doesn't matter at all, because anyone can go to the streets and protest to defend public interests. But attacking your own employer is not a solution. Why not to look for a job at NGO, or get involved in a non-profit startup instead? Oh, it doesn't pay well enough? Then you have to come into an agreement with yourself.

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7. pagane+gd[view] [source] 2020-01-28 12:22:25
>>krn+kb
> Why not to look for a job at NGO, or get involved in a non-profit startup instead?

You're seriously asking why a lowly-paid Amazon employee doesn't look for a NGO or a non-profit startup job instead? No offence, but is this satire? It seems like a Silicon Valley episode to me.

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8. krn+9k[view] [source] 2020-01-28 13:27:26
>>pagane+gd
> No offence, but is this satire? It seems like a Silicon Valley episode to me.

As an EU citizen from a country with an average personal income of less than 1000€ / month, I don't see any problem with not working for a company that stands against what I firmly believe in. It doesn't necessarily have to be an NGO or a non-profit. If you care about climate change more than about anything else, get a job at TSLA.

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9. CalRob+Vm[view] [source] 2020-01-28 13:47:58
>>krn+9k
"As an EU citizen"

This does confer some benefits with respect to safety net, etc. Working for an NGO might mean your kid not getting adequate health care.

Also, I don't believe TSLA is in a position to hire everyone who might like to work there (and they're not perfect themselves considering Elon's opposition to public transport that actually works, like buses)

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10. krn+ho[view] [source] 2020-01-28 13:58:04
>>CalRob+Vm
> This does confer some benefits with respect to safety net, etc.

Sure, it does, but we are talking here about highly paid Amazon's tech employees, not about lowly paid warehouse workers:

> More than 340 tech workers at Amazon used the hashtag #AMZNSpeakOut in public statements that condemn the company for not taking sufficient action on the climate crisis.

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