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1. jonas2+(OP)[view] [source] 2019-05-07 04:16:09
According to your link, 0.81% of Steam users are running Linux. And they're spread out over a number of distributions, with the largest share at 0.20% for Ubuntu 18.04. Seems to support the claim that it's a very small and fragmented user base.
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2. Dylan1+z8[view] [source] 2019-05-07 06:20:48
>>jonas2+(OP)
The post you replied to is about hardware specs, not the size of the user base.
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3. pjmlp+7a[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 06:44:31
>>Dylan1+z8
Which is filled with broken driver experiences, and a pleothora of distributions.
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4. square+se[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 07:58:30
>>pjmlp+7a
It wouldn't be that hard to put a couple developers of each major distro around a table then have them decide that when the user installs say the gaming_mode package, a well defined and standardized set of kernel+libraries+devices gets installed/created along with a new Grub boot option should that conflict with current versions.
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5. pjmlp+Ge[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 08:02:42
>>square+se
It would work as easy as having a desktop_mode, audio_mode package, .... /s

In case you missed it, that was the point of Steam Machines, and the respective distribution.

A mere 1% of Valve customers.

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6. _m7bj+wk[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 09:28:59
>>pjmlp+7a
I gather from your comment that it's been a while since you refreshed your knowledge of the current state of linux.

Graphics card driver issues largely stopped being a problem about 4 years ago, with both major graphics card manufacturers committing to open source drivers.

Packaging for multiple distributions is a problem that I would call "solved" for the past ~2 years, see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19844241

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7. pjmlp+Aq[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 10:43:09
>>_m7bj+wk
Maybe that is why AMD open source drivers still doesn't properly support my travel notebook APU.

So where is the great hardware video decoding and the GL features fxgl was capable of?

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8. jnurmi+oD[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 13:02:39
>>pjmlp+Aq
Accelerated video support is in the amdgpu driver which supports va-api (and vdpau).
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9. pjmlp+4H[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 13:40:33
>>jnurmi+oD
It doesn't support my AMD card, which was doing perfectly fine with fxgl, and DX11 on the Windows side.
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10. jnurmi+i71[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 16:10:40
>>pjmlp+4H
I take it your card is pretty old. There's always an option of staying at an older OS (like Ubuntu pre 16.04) to keep fglrx. What is your AMD card, by the way?
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11. pjmlp+Fk1[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-07 17:39:02
>>jnurmi+i71
Brazos APU.

So the solution is to stay on a legacy kernel, with the security risks it entails, while my Windows 10 can perfectly make use of the DX 11 drivers.

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12. likecl+ix2[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-08 06:06:19
>>pjmlp+Fk1
So. Your old (2011), low tier, graphics hardware doesn't work on Linux because AMD scrapped their old terrible driver and abandoned it in their new driver? The company you bought your APU from dropped support for you, what has that to do with Linux? How is that not just another case of another company dropping support for Linux on a product after they already have your money? (Pennies on the dollar, I think you called it.)

AMD's low-middle tier hardware is known to be mediocre, their drivers are known to be poor, and they're also known to drop support for hardware much faster than their competitors.

Yeah, you can run Linux on nearly anything.. but that doesn't mean you should try to sit in front of an old machine running old low quality components from manufacturers that don't support their low margin products.

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13. pjmlp+9q3[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-08 15:22:21
>>likecl+ix2
Yet the Windows driver is still supported, go figure.
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14. _m7bj+E66[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-05-09 17:02:01
>>pjmlp+9q3
Well, actually, about that...

You never did give your graphics card model number, but according to this[1] page the Brazos platform had two codename variants for laptops and notebooks: Ontario and Zacate. Hondo and Desna were exclusively for tablets. There were no variants for desktops.

According to this page[2] that puts your card somewhere in the Radion HD 6xxx or HD7xxx driver set, and the only references to Ontario are the Radeon HD 6290 and the Radeon HD 7340.

If you go to the AMD drivers download page[3] you'll discover that both of these cards have dropped off the bottom of the list of supported cards in their respective driver categories.

Now hey, maybe your card is a slightly newer model and it's still in that download list. I don't know, since I don't know your exact card model. But my 10 seconds of research says that actually it's probably not supported any more. If I'm wrong about that then you're pretty god damn close to the cliff edge at this point.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Uni... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_6000_Series [3] https://www.amd.com/en/support

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