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1. gamblo+jo[view] [source] 2019-05-07 01:59:18
>>Jerry2+(OP)
All 10 Linux gamers howled in rage at this news...

If there was a market for Linux games Epic wouldn't have pulled Linux support. There is no money in Linux gaming, so many companies have started to pull back on supporting Linux after years of experimenting.

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2. throwe+us[view] [source] 2019-05-07 02:50:17
>>gamblo+jo
Slightly, but only slightly exaggerated. It's not cost-effective to support a platform with such small user-base, especially when it is a crapshoot of specs on the order of 90s PC gaming.

Probably much simpler just to make a solid Windows build that plays nicely with WINE.

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3. likecl+gy[view] [source] 2019-05-07 03:50:34
>>throwe+us
The Steam hardware survey doesn't really support your claims about Linux hardware specs vs Windows: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw...

Let alone MacOS, which is more supported than Linux but has comparatively much poorer hardware stats.

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4. jonas2+EA[view] [source] 2019-05-07 04:16:09
>>likecl+gy
According to your link, 0.81% of Steam users are running Linux. And they're spread out over a number of distributions, with the largest share at 0.20% for Ubuntu 18.04. Seems to support the claim that it's a very small and fragmented user base.
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5. Dylan1+dJ[view] [source] 2019-05-07 06:20:48
>>jonas2+EA
The post you replied to is about hardware specs, not the size of the user base.
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6. pjmlp+LK[view] [source] 2019-05-07 06:44:31
>>Dylan1+dJ
Which is filled with broken driver experiences, and a pleothora of distributions.
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7. _m7bj+aV[view] [source] 2019-05-07 09:28:59
>>pjmlp+LK
I gather from your comment that it's been a while since you refreshed your knowledge of the current state of linux.

Graphics card driver issues largely stopped being a problem about 4 years ago, with both major graphics card manufacturers committing to open source drivers.

Packaging for multiple distributions is a problem that I would call "solved" for the past ~2 years, see my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19844241

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8. pjmlp+e11[view] [source] 2019-05-07 10:43:09
>>_m7bj+aV
Maybe that is why AMD open source drivers still doesn't properly support my travel notebook APU.

So where is the great hardware video decoding and the GL features fxgl was capable of?

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9. jnurmi+2e1[view] [source] 2019-05-07 13:02:39
>>pjmlp+e11
Accelerated video support is in the amdgpu driver which supports va-api (and vdpau).
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10. pjmlp+Ih1[view] [source] 2019-05-07 13:40:33
>>jnurmi+2e1
It doesn't support my AMD card, which was doing perfectly fine with fxgl, and DX11 on the Windows side.
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11. jnurmi+WH1[view] [source] 2019-05-07 16:10:40
>>pjmlp+Ih1
I take it your card is pretty old. There's always an option of staying at an older OS (like Ubuntu pre 16.04) to keep fglrx. What is your AMD card, by the way?
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12. pjmlp+jV1[view] [source] 2019-05-07 17:39:02
>>jnurmi+WH1
Brazos APU.

So the solution is to stay on a legacy kernel, with the security risks it entails, while my Windows 10 can perfectly make use of the DX 11 drivers.

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13. likecl+W73[view] [source] 2019-05-08 06:06:19
>>pjmlp+jV1
So. Your old (2011), low tier, graphics hardware doesn't work on Linux because AMD scrapped their old terrible driver and abandoned it in their new driver? The company you bought your APU from dropped support for you, what has that to do with Linux? How is that not just another case of another company dropping support for Linux on a product after they already have your money? (Pennies on the dollar, I think you called it.)

AMD's low-middle tier hardware is known to be mediocre, their drivers are known to be poor, and they're also known to drop support for hardware much faster than their competitors.

Yeah, you can run Linux on nearly anything.. but that doesn't mean you should try to sit in front of an old machine running old low quality components from manufacturers that don't support their low margin products.

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14. pjmlp+N04[view] [source] 2019-05-08 15:22:21
>>likecl+W73
Yet the Windows driver is still supported, go figure.
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15. _m7bj+iH6[view] [source] 2019-05-09 17:02:01
>>pjmlp+N04
Well, actually, about that...

You never did give your graphics card model number, but according to this[1] page the Brazos platform had two codename variants for laptops and notebooks: Ontario and Zacate. Hondo and Desna were exclusively for tablets. There were no variants for desktops.

According to this page[2] that puts your card somewhere in the Radion HD 6xxx or HD7xxx driver set, and the only references to Ontario are the Radeon HD 6290 and the Radeon HD 7340.

If you go to the AMD drivers download page[3] you'll discover that both of these cards have dropped off the bottom of the list of supported cards in their respective driver categories.

Now hey, maybe your card is a slightly newer model and it's still in that download list. I don't know, since I don't know your exact card model. But my 10 seconds of research says that actually it's probably not supported any more. If I'm wrong about that then you're pretty god damn close to the cliff edge at this point.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Uni... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_6000_Series [3] https://www.amd.com/en/support

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