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1. angry_+(OP)[view] [source] 2018-09-12 13:59:25
That is one part of the problem, but I think you are being hyperbolic in describing it as the key. In many countries single parents (or single income families) are not automatically poor. Having a single income (at minimum wage) be above the poverty/food stamp line would be a start. Sick/carers leave and subsidised childcare also have huge impacts in allowing mothers to retain higher paying jobs.

The real question is: why won't America care about children?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brycecovert/2012/07/16/the-rise...

https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/

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2. goblek+Q9[view] [source] 2018-09-12 14:59:00
>>angry_+(OP)
Because the American philosophy is that people who make good decisions should not have to subsidize the poor decision making of others.

America has a significant social safety net, but should responsible citizens pay for the upkeep of someone who has multiple children out of wedlock before the age of 20 without any means to support those children? Absolutely not.

People must take responsibility for their own actions.

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3. ahakki+Yd[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-12 15:23:39
>>goblek+Q9
Kids don‘t ask to be born, they don’t choose poor parents.
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4. thangn+nT[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-12 19:26:56
>>ahakki+Yd
So blame parents, not the society for not taking care of kids.
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5. DuskSt+1g1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-12 21:38:01
>>ahakki+Yd
Does that mean we should choose good parents for the kids? They didn't ask to have a crackhead for a father, after all.

But somehow I think you meant we should improve the lot of the parents in the hope that that would help the kids.

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6. angry_+py1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-13 00:15:43
>>goblek+Q9
Lolol. The old any and the grasshopper fallacy.

Well, the grasshopper's parents couldn't get a bank loan because they were PoC so they had poor investment options, missed out on promotions for similar reasons. Grasshopper got arrested for standing on the street while black and spent 2 months in jail because he didn't have a spare $10k for bond, and lost his job, even though charges were dropped. Ms grasshopper got sick while pregnant and had to pay $30k in hospital fees with an expensive loan. Loss of income meant they couldn't service the loan and they declared bankruptcy. Now they can't get credit for decades. Meanwhile the ant went to college and gets a good job, maximum access to tax breaks, social mobility etc.

So yeah, the poor choice to be born disadvantaged. Seriously, go back to your troll hole.

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