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1. apatte+(OP)[view] [source] 2018-09-12 05:28:19
It seems like you're lamenting what is basically an immutable biological trait without proposing any solutions. I don't think this adds much to the discussion.
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2. brickc+a1[view] [source] 2018-09-12 05:48:33
>>apatte+(OP)
apatters, a discussion on the internet doesn't need solutions. If we loved everyone like we love ourselves, we would not let people go hungry, or suffer. I believe few people have achieved this level of transcendence, and it starts with knowing yourself. If somehow I could write a comment over the internet that can make you do some self-reflection I would. But I don't know what that comment is.
3. 3x+14[view] [source] 2018-09-12 06:25:58
>>apatte+(OP)
> immutable biological trait

So now your two SUVs and white McMansion with a picket fence are an "immutable biological trait"?

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4. toofy+y9[view] [source] 2018-09-12 07:54:44
>>apatte+(OP)
> ... without proposing any solutions...

While I don't necessarily agree with everything the poster is saying--implying that someone is only allowed to discuss topics in which they have a readily available solution would likely ruin most discussion on the internet and it would certainly put a damper on scientific work the world over.

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5. apatte+D9[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-12 07:55:54
>>3x+14
Please try to be charitable, not adversarial, toward the counterparties in a discussion on HN. I will try to do the same.

I was characterizing what the parent appeared to be saying, so that I could discuss it (that greed is a part of human nature). I was not justifying greed.

I rent an apartment and I don't own a car.

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6. apatte+Ra[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-12 08:13:39
>>toofy+y9
I thought the pre-edit version of your comment was more interesting. Debate is a very different thing from scientific research. I think debates have better outcomes when you follow a few rules (civility, charity, a focus on possible solutions that benefit all parties). The rules for scientific R&D are different.

But whether the "enlightenment project" benefits from simply making complaints is a valid question. I still think the answer is no, or at least that if you're going to make a complaint, your position is improved by proposing a solution for discussion. I concede that it might be possible to make an effective and evidence-based counterargument, but are there meaningful social movements which have been based solely on complaining about stuff with no action platform?

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7. 3x+TI2[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-09-13 05:14:57
>>apatte+D9
Just a joke, phrasing it referring to "you" wasn't meant to be personal.
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