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1. Animat+sA1[view] [source] 2024-01-11 04:57:24
>>ilamon+(OP)
This should be looked at in light of the problems Israel faces. Israel is in serious danger of losing US support.[1][2] Outside of the US, there is very little support for what Israel is doing.[3] In the US, support is bought and paid for with political contributions. “If there was no lobby pushing Congress in a particular direction in a really forceful way, the position of the US Congress on the war in Gaza would be fundamentally different.”[4] The social media effort is only a small part of this.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/us-public-support-israel-drops...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/31/us/politics/us-israel-ham...

[3] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/12/united-nations...

[4] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/10/congress-mem...

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2. jcranm+PH1[view] [source] 2024-01-11 05:51:43
>>Animat+sA1
It's not just social media... I think at this point, every newspaper I've read has more or less started saying that Israel is seriously screwing up, and there is especially unanimity in saying that Netanyahu needs to go.

I'm not going to try to enumerate Israel's mistakes, but when you decide to invite a coterie of journalists to the hospital you destroyed to provide proof of your claims that it was actually a hive center of terrorist activity, and all of them come away basically saying "this evidence isn't good enough," then that should be a sign that it's not PR that's the problem of Israel, it's Israeli actions that are the problem that needs addressing.

And on a personal level, I'm ashamed that my government is giving such unconditional support to a country that is acting in that manner.

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3. tome+FV1[view] [source] 2024-01-11 07:57:53
>>jcranm+PH1
Sorry, which hospital are you referring to?
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4. johnny+Z12[view] [source] 2024-01-11 08:50:45
>>tome+FV1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hos...

> The bare, white-tiled rooms showed no immediate evidence of use — for command and control or otherwise. There are no signs of recent habitation, including litter, food containers, clothing or other personal items.

> “This room was evacuated, and all the gear was evacuated. I guess it was evacuated when they knew or understand that we were going to enter Shifa Hospital,” Hagari said in the video.

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5. tome+4b6[view] [source] 2024-01-12 08:18:53
>>johnny+Z12
Al Shifa hospital has not been destroyed, nor has any hospital in Gaza, as far as I am aware.
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6. johnny+0v6[view] [source] 2024-01-12 11:17:19
>>tome+4b6
As far as you're aware. Okay? What am I supposed to do with that? 2 seconds of googling yielded this:

> According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, 26 out of the 35 hospitals across Gaza are non-functional because of damage sustained during the Israeli military assault or the lack of power.

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7. tome+LE8[view] [source] 2024-01-12 22:27:32
>>johnny+0v6
No one's provided evidence for the "destroyed hospital" that jcranmer claimed a "coterie of journalists" were invited to.
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8. johnny+f39[view] [source] 2024-01-13 01:39:19
>>tome+LE8
Then replace "destroyed" by "conducted a raid in", or even leave it out altogether, and nothing about the point of that sentence changes.
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9. tome+et9[view] [source] 2024-01-13 08:09:51
>>johnny+f39
Interesting. To me there's a very strong difference between destroying and not destroying a hospital.
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