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1. mutant+l1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:21:56
>>xslowz+(OP)
I think that HN itself also shadow flags submissions from a list of domains it doesn't like.

Try submitting a URL from the following domains, and it will be automatically flagged (but you can't see it's flagged unless you log out):

  - archive.is
  - watcher.guru
  - stacker.news
  - zerohedge.com
  - freebeacon.com
  - thefederalist.com
  - breitbart.com
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2. dang+p1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:22:20
>>mutant+l1
Well, yes, many sites are banned on HN. Others are penalized (see e.g. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). None of this is secret, though we don't publish the lists themselves.

Edit: about 67k sites are banned on HN. Here's a random selection of 10 of them:

  vodlockertv.com
  biggboss.org
  infoocode.com
  newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com
  moringajuice.wordpress.com
  surrogacymumbai.com
  maximizedlivingdrlabrecque.com
  radio.com
  gossipcare.com
  tecteem.com
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3. rhaksw+s5[view] [source] 2023-08-15 05:05:41
>>dang+p1
It is a secret if the system does not inform the poster it's been penalized.
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4. predic+O8[view] [source] 2023-08-15 05:41:37
>>rhaksw+s5
There's a lot of user hostile moderation practices that occur on this site, manual and automatic. They're not often, or really at all, discussed. Some of them don't work well, and haven't for as long as they've existed.
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5. dang+mi[view] [source] 2023-08-15 07:28:10
>>predic+O8
I don't want us to be user hostile. Can you link to some examples?
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6. johngl+gU[view] [source] 2023-08-15 13:10:35
>>dang+mi
I would consider any moderation action that isn't visible to users to be user hostile.

If you're going to censor someone, you owe it to them to be honest about what you're doing to them.

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7. DamonH+jD1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 17:00:33
>>johngl+gU
You possibly haven't experienced how devious and determined and dishonest and unpleasant some bad actors are, including SPAMmers.

(Even when doing the RightThing(TM) would probably be easier...)

And, BTW, I occasionally get blocked by the mechanisms here, even though not doing anything bad, but understand that there is a trade-off.

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8. johngl+7Q1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 17:56:01
>>DamonH+jD1
I am fully aware of the issue.

That's one of the costs with having a public website.

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9. dang+JZ1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 18:50:50
>>johngl+7Q1
I agree with you both. The only thing I'd add is that it's a tradeoff - if we do it this way, it's only because the alternative would be even more user-hostile.
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10. 93po+ef2[view] [source] 2023-08-15 20:06:20
>>dang+JZ1
Does HN ever show a user that their comment was submitted, but the comment is not visible for anyone else? Or it’s not visible for most people? Without having the flagged tag
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11. dredmo+ni2[view] [source] 2023-08-15 20:23:45
>>93po+ef2
Indirectly: <>>37137757 >

I suppose a sufficiently motivated spammer might incorporate that as a submission workflow check.

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