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Nokia as phone manufacturer is gone.

Nokia the company still exists. It owns the Nokia brand and has massive mobile patent portfolio (only licensed to Microsoft). Nokia is made of NSN (Nokia Solutions and Networks), maps and The Nokia Research Center.

Nokia is prohibited from using the brand to sell mobile phones for few years (ending 2018). It's completely possible that they come up with new gadgets or even phones with Nokia name.

>>nabla9+(OP)
Nokia is like one of the Japanese/Korean conglomerate where it touches everything[1]. Looking back at its stories, it got involve in power generation, TV manufacture, even forestry. I am sure that this is only part of its evolution.

[1] - http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/about-us/the-nokia-s...

>>yitche+b
This is true. For over a century Nokia has bounced from one industry to another. As I like to tell people, "Nokia was pivoting before pivoting was cool" :)

We will do more great things at Nokia.

>>nabla9+(OP)
I'd love a comeback in the mobile space in 2018! :-)

>>yitche+b
Not any more. Those parts of Nokia Keiretsu that once was exist today as independent companies.

http://www.nokiantyres.com/ http://www.nokiantires.com/

http://nokianjalkineet.fi/en/ http://www.nokianfootwear.com/

Nokia Cable is now http://www.nkcommunications.com

>>Nux+S3
Remember the Burning Platform letter from Elop that killed remaining Symbian sales for Nokia? Elop likened Nokia/Symbian to burning oil platform and argued that Nokia must jump from the platform to be saved.

Jolla http://jolla.com/ was founded soon afterwards by people who left Nokia. The name Jolla means dinghy, skiff or lifeboat in Finnish.

>>nabla9+d4
Conglomerate is not a Keiretsu and a keiretsu is not a conglomerate. Keiretsu is cross-ownership of shares centered around a bank.

If you absolutely must use a Japanese term, go with Zaibatsu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiretsu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaibatsu

>>wodeno+S9
Ownership of big Finnish companies formed Keiretsu type arrangement until the beginning of the 80's. Finland had two big banks, SYP and KOP, and they formed two camps that cross owned large sectors of Finnish business.

Nokia was mostly in the SYP camp. SYP owned directly 20% of Nokia and even more trough it's insurance companies and other investors.

>>nabla9+d4
That they're spun off is probably a good thing. Nokian tires are basically the best winter tires around. It's gone so far that consumer tests are superfluous. Nokian winter tires and Continental summer tires are the be-all, end-all of tires. Why the hell do I know this? I don't even own a car...

>>nabla9+(OP)
Nokia has sold many products in it's life including toilet paper. I don't think Nokia as a company is going away soon.

As a former employee at the end of it's heyday it continues to be the best company I have worked for. They paid fairly and treated us fairly when it was time to part ways.

It sucks that the management could never grasp what the Iphone was. There were no shortage people trying to tell them.

>>yitche+b
My TV is a Nokia "fat screen", bought in Stockholm some time in the late 90's. Where I live now, people only know their cellphones and don't believe it's "that" Nokia who made my TV :)

>>nisse7+Ij1
Same here, I went to an older style hotel a couple years back, and it had Nokia TVs on a wall mounted arms. I was confused!